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  Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status

  by dubstepped in

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  i am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.

  i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.

  maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.

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  Yes, they do claim to do charitable work as to disaster zones, though we have also heard that they send brothers in after the volunteers do all of the work and leave on their own dimes and then they ask for the insurance checks.

  So yeah, they are definitely kings of obfuscation and weasel words. I'm reading the publication and form 1023 but my eyes are getting blurry at this point and I'm not sure how much I care to dig in. I just thought it was an interesting point that made a lot of sense in giving them something to report that would be the crux of their supposed charitable work of preaching which is the main work that they do.

  Or maybe simply qualifying as a church gives one all they truly need. The form 1023 requests more specifics and then there are mentions of "other circumstances" that are unclear that are taken into consideration. I guess without talking directly to a governmental entity that makes such decisions it would be hard to know anything for sure. It's still interesting to me, all of it.
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  Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.

  i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.

  maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.

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  We'll see where this posts as the box is above blondie's last post, lol.
  
  Anyway, that seems to be the definition of a church. The link you provided says that it is the definition of the church, and that along with other facts and circumstances it is determined whether one is a church for federal tax purposes. They give a tax publication that apparently goes further into it but it may be more involved.
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  Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.

  i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.

  maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.

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  Maybe that's part of it blondie. I could see that though it seems such a small part of the group I'm not sure how it would qualify. Seems the JWs are more into learning other languages than teaching English. Maybe that qualifies as an outreach, self-serving as it all may be.

  I'd be curious to hear more about other groups that do nothing charitable that maintain charitable status as roseofjuly mentioned.
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  Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.

  i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.

  maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.

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  dubstepped

  Fascinating that you joined the forum just to post this. Curious as to your background.

  From what I gather there must be some way to quantify some sort of activity that can be determined to meet the IRS criteria in order to justify donations. Lots of other churches actually do charitable works. Jehovah's Witnesses do not.
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  Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.

  i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.

  maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.

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  dubstepped

  I am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-JWs with specific goals and I've learned more about the process. I was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that I had never considered. Maybe everyone else has but I don't remember seeing anything about it here.

  I always wondered how the Borg keep a nonprofit status when they don't really do anything charitable. She told me that it is the time slips that everyone turns in that gives them "volunteer hours" and that is why you have to turn one in each month. I had never thought about that as the backbone of the nonprofit status. I knew that even as a JW I would fire back about our worldwide preaching work when people questioned me about what kind of charity we did, and I guess it is, though it is those time reports that really give them the status. I just never really linked the two. No wonder they're all about numbers.
  
  Maybe there's more to it that someone will shed light on. Maybe everyone already knew this. I just found it interesting and it makes sense.
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  Our Own Unstuck (stuckinarut2's wife) On The Shunned Podcast

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  --------new episode---------.

  episode twenty three - sherrie is shunned by jehovah's witnesses.

  today we have a really cool live recording from my living room.

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  Thankya sir! Oh, and you're welcome! We had a great time getting to meet your lovely wife and her aunt who was so much fun.
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  Our Own Unstuck (stuckinarut2's wife) On The Shunned Podcast

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  --------new episode---------.

  episode twenty three - sherrie is shunned by jehovah's witnesses.

  today we have a really cool live recording from my living room.

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  --------New Episode---------

  Episode Twenty Three - Sherrie is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses

  Today we have a really cool live recording from my living room. A listener to the show from Australia named Sherrie came to the United States with her Auntie Bev and they took time out of their trip to come visit my wife and I. Sherrie is pretty freshly openly out of the Witnesses, and Beverley was never one of Jehovah’s Witnesses despite her close ties to her family and hopes that one day she could see them leave the cult behind. So I had two mics and we passed them around and you’ll hear Sherrie and Beverley and myself and my wife Jenny jumps in too.

  You will learn about Sherrie’s exemplary JW life and what woke her up, how much it impacts other family members when people suddenly become Jehovah’s Witnesses, and the beauty that unfolds when people wake up and families are able to live in freedom again.

  You can download and listen on your podcast app of choice (iTunes, Apple Podcast, Google Play, Podcast Republic, Podbean, etc.). I personally use Podcast Republic.

  You can also listen on the player at my website found at:
  https://shunnedpodcast.com/episode-twenty-three-sherrie-is…/

  And you can listen on Youtube at:
  https://youtu.be/NB9p12NoUJ4
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  Discontinue unproductive bible study - jw broadcasting

  by Gorbatchov in

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  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-ism_2_video.

  interesting video explaining how to end a bible study.. watch the kind of uber behaviour of the witnesses: make a choice or we leave.... so hard, so not christian.

  no love for the person.. g..

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  This is just psychological manipulation. You like this thing (the study) but if you don't do the thing we want you to do (get in deeper) then we'll take the thing you like away. It's petty bullshit meant to apply pressure to the student. You can see it coming when they start shaming him for not being fine soil. They're setting him up to either shit or get off the pot and making him feel like bad soil. Shame is their motivator.
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  How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.

  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.

  a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.

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  https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/how-to-sue-for-emotional-distress.html

  There you go guys. I look forward to seeing your lawsuits since many are sure about this. Take your shot!
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  How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.

  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.

  a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.

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  A case about loss of clients, in a lawsuit seeking money damages, makes more sense than this emotional stuff you guys are talking about. He can show proof that he made x and lost that specific opportunity. It's easy, and he still lost. Trying cases seeking money based on emotion because someone won't talk to you? Good luck.

  I look forward to your cases. I'll cover it on my podcast and hope you succeed but the hope here seems purely emotional.