@LV101 - yes, it shows that the cult is willing to hide evidence that would prove the truthfulness of something. That should tell you all you need to know about the cult we all followed. They peddle "The Truth" but will do anything necessary to protect what they really love, money that keeps their god, the organization that they worship, standing. They have proven not to care about the truth of the pain they've caused by allowing pedophiles to be protected, they don't care about the deaths of humans due to their blood policy, they don't care about helping one's that are hurt by them, they only care about themselves. No charity work there, it's all for them. They should lose their tax free status and go be the mega real estate corporation that they want to be.
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Watch: Jehovah's Witnesses official says to destroy records because
by Tahoe in'satan's coming after us'.
screenshot from video.
shawn bartlett, the records management overseer for the jehovah’s witnesses, explains the organization’s new record-keeping policies during a 2017 seminar in britain.
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Watch: Jehovah's Witnesses official says to destroy records because
by Tahoe in'satan's coming after us'.
screenshot from video.
shawn bartlett, the records management overseer for the jehovah’s witnesses, explains the organization’s new record-keeping policies during a 2017 seminar in britain.
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dubstepped
Also, to reach so far to pat yourself on the back in praise of their handling of child abuse cases makes you pretty much a disgusting human being. Do you feel good knowing that your cult sat on so many cases while discouraging people from going to actual authorities? Do you feel good worshiping an organization that even now fights against taking strong steps to protect the most vulnerable among them, that needs worldly governments to get them to take any action? I hope you don't suffer from motion sickness, because you'll need to find a bathroom after that much spin.
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Watch: Jehovah's Witnesses official says to destroy records because
by Tahoe in'satan's coming after us'.
screenshot from video.
shawn bartlett, the records management overseer for the jehovah’s witnesses, explains the organization’s new record-keeping policies during a 2017 seminar in britain.
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Wow, the brainwashing is strong with this one. It takes mindlessness to on one hand praise the cult for having no blood on its hands, then follow it up with the skewed view of their blood policy, a policy that goes beyond scripture and has led to the death of countless individuals.
What a load of crap. Your false prophet cult has been proclaiming "crunch time" for over a century, getting it wrong time and again. Your free ebook is sanctioned by the faithful and discreet slave I'm sure?
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Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?
by Whynot inmy husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.
has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?
we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.
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As far as a formal support group with a specific process for helping people, I don't know of one. To me places like this, some Facebook groups, discussing sites about the various ex-jw media that's out there (youtube, podcasts, blogs, etc.), give people a place to find support. There are meetup groups in some cities where people go to the meetup website and then arrange to attend a group meeting. If a person needs serious help they should probably be in therapy of some kind. There are plenty of support groups for all of the issues mentioned, and they don't have to be specific to former JWs. There could be a former JW support group, but I'm not sure how it would be able to address all of the issues in the same group. I think there are usually specific groups for specific things in the world in general. Simply being an ex-JW may not be enough, you might have to have ones for each specific issue.
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Why the term "waking up?"
by Sour Grapes inis the term "waking up" the best way to describe when a jdub starts to have doubts?
to me, it is rather that a jdub realizes that what they have believed for years was a pack of lies and then they have to make a conscious decision if they want to continue to believe in lies or stop being a jdub or just go along for the ride.. it just amazes me how many die-hard jdubs there are despite every failed prophecy about the end coming, the borg being a part of the dreaded wild best united nations, the put down of women in the borg, the massive cover-up of the child abuse in the borg, the willingness to let a child die because they need blood, and the eagerness to shun a child who at the age of 10 got dunked to make mommy and daddy happy only to not want to be a jdub later and have the parents treat them like they are dead because 8 overweight, balding, goofy looking, incoherent men in upper state new york say that are the rules for being a christain.. jehovah's witnesses are a very sad cult that attracts people with emotional, psychological, or medical issues, have very large egos, can't make simple decisions, and believe in the tooth fairy..
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I think waking up is a fantastic term for it. Most of us were lulled to sleep by the fear and indoctrination and we lived in a fantasy world, a dream world that didn't exist. We wake up, we start to see the world for what it is, we see the cult for what it is, and we can make choices and take new actions. Go to a meeting and most of the people are asleep. They're sleep walking through life at the direction of the next man that tells them what to do. They're brains are switched to auto at best, off at worst. They aren't awake to what is going on around them, to what they're a part of, etc. I personally love the term.
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Episode 13 - Fernando is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses - Is Out Now
by dubstepped inepisode 13 - fernando is shunned by jehovah's witnesses, is out now.. one of the hallmarks of growing up as one of jehovah’s witnesses is that feeling that you’re never “good enough”.
it drives a lot of the depression seen in the cult, and is often something that people that leave take with them.
imagine if instead of just feeling less than because maybe you aren’t hitting some goal of hours spent knocking on doors or taking care of responsibilities in the congregation that are expected of you the problem was something as personal and natural as your sexuality.
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Well blownaway, we are just good for nothing slaves. We have to pummel our body and lead it as such.
I eventually got healthy enough myself where I questioned why god would send his son to die for such worthless pieces of shit like us. Of course, to me it's all fairy tales now, but I digress.
Can you imagine though how tough it must be, on top of that, to realize your very sexuality is something you can never beat out of yourself. It was interesting to see Fernando try to do as much as he could organizationally as if somehow he could outrun his nature. Pretty much heartbreaking.
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Moving Back to Chicago - Don't care
by LevelThePlayingField inmy wife was diagnosed with ms about two years ago.
we have been living in ohio for the last 5 years but were recently assigned to a new congregation because of the dissolving and sale of our congregation/kh.
my wife's symptoms spiked after being relocated to our new hall back in january.
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Stress is tough on MS. People over cults man, do what's right for you and her. Good for you for taking a stand for her even if there are consequences to yourself.
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Episode 13 - Fernando is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses - Is Out Now
by dubstepped inepisode 13 - fernando is shunned by jehovah's witnesses, is out now.. one of the hallmarks of growing up as one of jehovah’s witnesses is that feeling that you’re never “good enough”.
it drives a lot of the depression seen in the cult, and is often something that people that leave take with them.
imagine if instead of just feeling less than because maybe you aren’t hitting some goal of hours spent knocking on doors or taking care of responsibilities in the congregation that are expected of you the problem was something as personal and natural as your sexuality.
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Episode 13 - Fernando is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses, is out now.
One of the hallmarks of growing up as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses is that feeling that you’re never “good enough”. It drives a lot of the depression seen in the cult, and is often something that people that leave take with them. Imagine if instead of just feeling less than because maybe you aren’t hitting some goal of hours spent knocking on doors or taking care of responsibilities in the congregation that are expected of you the problem was something as personal and natural as your sexuality. In this episode we get an intimate look into what it’s like to be gay growing up as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and it’s impact on Fernando, which I’m sure reflects at least parts of the experiences of many others.
You can listen to the "shunned" podcast on iTunes (Apple Podcasts), Google Play, your podcast app of choice (Podbean, Podcast Republic, etc.), find it on Youtube at my channel called shunnedpodcast, and even stream live from my site at:
http://shunnedpodcast.com/episode-13-fernando-is-shunned-by-jehovahs-witnesses/
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If the Gov. where you live outlawed the JWs would you turn in your family?
by blownaway ini guess it would depend for me.
some of my family i would take out bill boards pointing to them.
many of the elders it would be he is over there and set off a neon sign.
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No. It's not my deal. That would be between the government and them.
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Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?
by blownaway inmy mother was not the most emotionally stable person.
she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.
its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.
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@stuckinarut2 - Oh man, the lost opportunities. Not just education and career, but dating and figuring out who we were in relationships, the lost chance to play sports and learn to be part of a team, the basic loss of childhood innocence while the weight of the world and saving it was put on our shoulders, I could go on and on.
I hate fakery at this point so much that I cannot enjoy fictional movies. To suspend disbelief is a struggle. But the other day I went to YouTube and watched a video of all the best cartoons from the 80's. I realized quickly that before my parents became cult members I absolutely loved fantasy and fiction. So many cartoons of magic and wonder, a part of me that they crushed out of existence. I've been told my whole life that I'm too serious, and those fuckers are a big part of it. Not just the cult aspects of my parents, but their joyless denial of the realities of life, their whole lives spent playing roles and not being real, and my realization as a child that make believe lives are bitterly unhappy, all combined to make me dislike even fun whimsy and robbed me of so much joy. I'm trying to get some of that back.
That last sentence struck a nerve, trying to get things back. I'm so sick of being behind in life, trying to catch up in so many aspects because of them. Adulthood has been a deep dive to suicidal depression followed by a nine year constant battle to figure out literally everything I know about life because they taught me virtually nothing.