Stuckinarut beat me to it! The one proclamation they got right.
dubstepped
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Has the Governing Body ever been right?
by Jules Saturn ini asked this question to a relative after mentioning several situations where teachings were changed or readjusted (new light) and they have two reasons.
yes, they are correct because look at how the preaching work has grown through the decades and the advancements in witnessing and the second reason was the doctrine of the trinity and how the society opposes that.
i didn’t really have a response, especially for the trinity doctrine.. does the governing body have the rejection of the trinity belief correct?.
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"Confessions of a teenage Jesus jerk"
by stuckinarut2 inhas anyone else seen the movie "confessions of a teenage jesus jerk"?.
im still processing it, and trying to work out my thoughts..... i would be interested in others thoughts..
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dubstepped
@humbled - Being young and growing up JW is the worst. I actually wasn't technically born in, but I was about 8-9 when my mom became a JW and my dad the year after. I'd say that might be even worse than technically being born in. To have to give up so much, family, holidays, friends, etc. at such a young age for such a raw deal may be worse than being truly born in. I don't know, comparing is hard, but it sucked to lose so much so young in exchange for becoming an outcast with even less going for me. Growing up JW sucks no matter how you cut it.
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"Confessions of a teenage Jesus jerk"
by stuckinarut2 inhas anyone else seen the movie "confessions of a teenage jesus jerk"?.
im still processing it, and trying to work out my thoughts..... i would be interested in others thoughts..
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dubstepped
I was talking about it with Joho through email and she made a great point about how the cult triggers depression in young people. I've kind of forgotten how rough it can be when you're young. A developing teen with new urges and thoughts is condemned at every meeting for everything he or she is or is becoming. Those next years are fraught with every type of "spiritual" peril and the person facing them all is just a kid. My parents never had to face any of that, and neither did my wife's, as they came in as adults.
I'm glad that people still get to see the cult for the soul destroying thing that it is even if I'm not completely on board with all of the ideas presented. I like that point you made.
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Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?
by BlackSpirit injesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.
if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.
now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.
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dubstepped
Why do Jehovah's Witnesses oppose other people?
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Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?
by BlackSpirit injesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.
if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.
now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.
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dubstepped
They see me trollin'
They hatin'
Patrolling they tryiny to catch me ridin' culty
Tryin' catch me ridin' culty........
Lmao at the troll getting owned.
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Gifts for Father's Day?
by mentalclarity inanyone have any suggestions for gifts for father's day?
it happens to coincide with my boyfriend's birthday so i want it to be special but i'm kind of running out of ideas.
budget- up tp $150.
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dubstepped
Disclaimer: I don't cook.
With that said, what if you bought him something like an Instapot or another trendy cooking dealio and made him something with it or even a few somethings and taught him how to cook a few easy homemade things with it.
If you have a store nearby that sells gadgety cooking things, take him there and teach him what things are, maybe prepare something ahead of time to help him see the engineering in the latest kitchen doohickeys. You can tell I know about this, lol. Stop me if I get too technical. Maybe you can foster an interest in cooking but from an engineer's perspective.
Show a man how to cook, cook a nice but easy meal using his new gadgets for the kitchen, then eat while watching Star Trek on a new DVD that's been remastered or has bonus stuff on it.
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Gifts for Father's Day?
by mentalclarity inanyone have any suggestions for gifts for father's day?
it happens to coincide with my boyfriend's birthday so i want it to be special but i'm kind of running out of ideas.
budget- up tp $150.
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dubstepped
I like cool wallets, knives, watches, even flashlights, as a gadget guy myself. I also love buying gifts for people and the response has been good. I hate that the cult took so much away from me there. Anyway, I'm heading out the door but can probably get you specific ideas. Pm me his Facebook if he has one and let me poke around and maybe I can get a better feel for the guy, if you're okay with that. I'm not a creepy stalker, I promise. At least let me know what he likes to do, if he's a fan of anyone or anything in particular. Specifics help. -
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dubstepped
Yes, Satan told me all about it.
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"Confessions of a teenage Jesus jerk"
by stuckinarut2 inhas anyone else seen the movie "confessions of a teenage jesus jerk"?.
im still processing it, and trying to work out my thoughts..... i would be interested in others thoughts..
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dubstepped
*****SPOILERS BELOW******* READ AT YOUR OWN RISK********
Well, thanks to Joho above my wife and I just watched it. I'm not sure how I feel, so I'll work it out here. Well, I know how I feel about Joho sharing it, she's the freaking best. :)
First, my wife heard the creator of this movie on a podcast recently. He doesn't like the ex-JW community and that we're too bitter. He looked into it a bit and peaced out on it and wanted to go on with his life.
I feel that it's reflected in this movie. He paints and ugly picture of life both in and out of the cult. It seems to me like the creator of this movie hasn't worked through his own stuff yet and still paints an ugly picture of life outside. It's like he still sees "worldly" people like the JWs teach. They were all fucking anything that moves, drunks, really none of them seemed to have many good qualities. I think he paints a narrow and maybe JW driven perspective of life outside.
The sex stuff was spot on. So much goes on. My wife believes that the creator was disfellowshipped for "loose conduct" and maybe something similar to the movie. She wasn't sure. But there is so much stuff that goes on in the cult. Some gets brushed under the rug, other things get blown up to rape status, it's all so confusing. The cousin fucking was just a really odd thing to throw in. The movie had an old school grimy feel to it. That cousin stuff didn't help things. Though with the confusion instilled in a kid like that, you can see how anything could happen.
Somehow despite the ugly portrayal I felt like there was some sort of sympathy toward the cult. I can't put my finger on it, maybe it was some of the cutaways, particularly the one old man.
Like Joho said, the stuff about the parents being so concerned about their precious congregational position was triggering. That was my dad.
The hanging part...............damn. As soon as the watch fell out my wife and I both looked at each other and groaned. We knew what that meant. That's tough.
I was confused about the dad and CoC and his meeting with the elders where he took the book in and the holes punched in doors and such. There were things that were thrown in that didn't add up to me, but I'm not good at figuring that stuff out usually. I often need things spelled out for me in movies a bit more.
The way it ended suddenly, but with that black screen after he did the finger thing, was very poignant, at least from what I read into it. I may be way off. But to me it looked like he was trying to escape, once again, using the fingertip touching trip shown throughout. Now though there was no escape. Reality had crashed down. There were no fluffy clouds in the sky, no fantasies, just utterly dark realities.
That movie has me feeling some type of way. I'm just not sure what. Kinda sick a bit. It was just bleak and maybe kind of dystopian, but that's also the realities. We know that's the realities inside the cult, reminiscent of the dystopian novel 1984. I felt like the portrayal of life outside though was also kind of painted the same, like nothing had value or meaning, and that part I don't really jive with.
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RIP Anthony Bourdain
by freemindfade inso sad to hear about the loss of one of the best storytellers.
such a great unique personality.
he will be greatly missed .
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dubstepped
I'll be honest and say that I don't really know who he was. I've heard of him, but never experienced what he put out into the world.
It just goes to show though that happiness is an inside game. You can't get it from money, or experiences or anyone else. It's something you have to find within.
RIP Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade too. Sorry life on this planet wasn't bearable for you.