Phizzy - When I was disfellowshipped 5 years ago, they announced that I was "no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses." So, according to them, being disfellowshipped is not just a JW under restriction.
confuzzlediam
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Inactive ones are not JWs
by gone for good inyears ago, the insinuation was often presented, that those who were inactive were actually not witnesses at all.
the point being made was that ''...winesses is a verb, not a noun...''.
i know there were published assertions to this end in the older books and magazines, with possibly even quotes from the likes of rutherford or knorr ,.
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My first birthday gift to someone
by Slave4_38y ini bought my girlfriend a birthday gift yesterday.
it felt weird.
i'm 43 years old and have never done this before.
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confuzzlediam
I have yet to buy a birthday present. I have given a birthday card...so a step in the right direction!! LOL I am 44 and was df'd 5 years ago. The thought of celebrating birthdays or holidays is still foreign to me, but I am beginning to open up to the possibilities!
Congrats on giving your first birthday gift with NO guilt!! Such a freeing experience!!
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To all anointed wannabe losers, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, OR ELSE!!!!!
by DATA-DOG inonce again the beloved and loving governing body are demonstrating their utmost disdain for the rank and file members of the jehovah church.
let us review this interesting trend, starting with some facts!
yay, facts!!!
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confuzzlediam
I was df'd 5 years ago. It was right after being df'd that the numbers for the 144,000 started to increase. It was when one of the elder's in our cong. participated and claimed to be one of the anointed that I started REALLY questioning things. How could the numbers start increasing when I thought they had already been chosen and the numbers were decreasing.
It was this along with the mention of the "rapture" that caused me to have serious doubts as to the "truth". There was an article in the WT study that said that when Armageddon came, those that were left on earth from the anointed would be taken up into the heavens. I remember calling my then husband saying that the WT talked about a rapture. I remember leaving the kingdom hall with a headache. I had already been df'd about 2 years and was attempting to go back so I could have contact with my husbands family. After this meeting, I had a really hard time sitting through any more. It was painful.
Now with this info coming out, the WT is having to cover their behinds by making sure those who are partaking are doing so because they are "worthy". Don't want that number to keep increasing or armageddon will never come!
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Where can Gay people get married in the USA?
by fulltimestudent init does not seem long ago that the answer was, nowhere.
and yahweh and jesus don't seem to mind, they arn't hurling fire and brimstone or making it flood everywhere.
life goes on as normal, people are, "eating and drinking, men are marrying men and women are being given to other women, just as they have been doing in many places on this globe for as long as humans have been on the earth.
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confuzzlediam
SO ashamed to live in NE! LOL I swear we will be the LAST state to legalize it. Sad... -
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The WBATS has officially become a Fortune 500 company they are going public Monday buy your shares soon while they LAST!!!
by ADJUSTMENTS inwith the recent leak and viewing of the elders video on the new standard construction kingdumb halls the rank & file brobots have officially become employees of a billion dollar publishing and now real estate company, equipped with 7 ceo's and many businessmen as shrewd and as money hungry as any rival fortune 500 company.. the new kingdumb halls look like (i have to give it to them) expertly designed commercial properties that any major office, restuarant or commercial leasing company would package as a ultra versatile space!!!
the old kingdumb halls where a tough resale to the general public because of the custom designing aspects of the old kingdumb halls.
they have completely done away with that issue with these new versatile properties which can be converted to an office/restaurant/repair garage/clinic.
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confuzzlediam
SO true! When I used to go, I found it amazing to hear the elders get up on stage and talk about how it is good for people to question their beliefs when it comes to other religions, but don't dare ask if it pertains to the society's viewpoint. -
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Unconditional Love in the organization and congregations...
by ADJUSTMENTS inthis is so true i couldn't have said it better!!!.
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confuzzlediam
I didn't know what unconditional love was until I was disfellowshipped. What I found was anyone who was a so-called friend in the congregation, dropped me quicker than quick. But the friends that I met through my scrapbooking groups (I used to teach scrapbooking!) will remain my friends for a lifetime and they love me for who I am, not for the number of meetings I attended or the number of hours I put in in field service. Even my parents who have been witnesses for years (I was born-in), stood by my side and love me unconditionally because they know that I should have never been disfellowshipped.
Unconditional friendship is just that...unconditional. The witnesses ONLY love you on the conditions set forth from the WT society, which are many!
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Do the Rank & File JW's REALLY read and understand the bible to be able to REALLY start a study with someone???
by ADJUSTMENTS ini believe the average rank & file are illiterate when it come to the bible because they are so used to using the wbats cliff notes... even though i believe the bible is a fiction novel, at least be able to explain a novel you hold is such high regard: i mean jesus!!!
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confuzzlediam
When I would go out in service, I would actually hope that no one would ask me any questions, cuz I wouldn't be able to answer them. That is why I liked the pamphlets where we would hand it to them and leave! lol What is sad about it all is that I was a witness for the first 39 years of my life... -
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The WBATS has officially become a Fortune 500 company they are going public Monday buy your shares soon while they LAST!!!
by ADJUSTMENTS inwith the recent leak and viewing of the elders video on the new standard construction kingdumb halls the rank & file brobots have officially become employees of a billion dollar publishing and now real estate company, equipped with 7 ceo's and many businessmen as shrewd and as money hungry as any rival fortune 500 company.. the new kingdumb halls look like (i have to give it to them) expertly designed commercial properties that any major office, restuarant or commercial leasing company would package as a ultra versatile space!!!
the old kingdumb halls where a tough resale to the general public because of the custom designing aspects of the old kingdumb halls.
they have completely done away with that issue with these new versatile properties which can be converted to an office/restaurant/repair garage/clinic.
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confuzzlediam
Adjustments, I agree that it is not the same as it was 5 years ago. There was a shift especially when they started publishing the WT for public and for publishers. My parents have also noticed the shift and have a hard time with it all. Makes me wonder if there will be more that will start questioning the teachings as things evolve with the society?! -
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The WBATS has officially become a Fortune 500 company they are going public Monday buy your shares soon while they LAST!!!
by ADJUSTMENTS inwith the recent leak and viewing of the elders video on the new standard construction kingdumb halls the rank & file brobots have officially become employees of a billion dollar publishing and now real estate company, equipped with 7 ceo's and many businessmen as shrewd and as money hungry as any rival fortune 500 company.. the new kingdumb halls look like (i have to give it to them) expertly designed commercial properties that any major office, restuarant or commercial leasing company would package as a ultra versatile space!!!
the old kingdumb halls where a tough resale to the general public because of the custom designing aspects of the old kingdumb halls.
they have completely done away with that issue with these new versatile properties which can be converted to an office/restaurant/repair garage/clinic.
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confuzzlediam
The one thing that stood out to me was the drawing of Jesus holding the lamb. Maybe I am not remembering correctly, but I don't believe I have ever been in a KH where there was a rendering of Jesus. Usually the artwork was of paradise. They are really making a move to try to appease to "church" goers by changing their look. As far as the JW.org being on the building with a spotlight on it, that honestly turns my stomach. They are now branding...which to me, takes God out of it and inserts JW group think into it. SO glad I am no longer a part of this cult. WHEW!! -
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talk me off the cliff please
by sowhatnow inmy son, at age 25 finally, was able to get accepted into a community college.
but i dont have words of joy to share with him.
im instead dizzy with fear of possible financial failure.
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confuzzlediam
Community college is a GREAT place to start! My daughter started there and will be transferring to a university in the fall to complete her Bachelor's degree. I started at the same community college in September at the age of 43. It is never too late to start!!
Has he thought to look into financial aid? I know quite a few students, young and old, who have applied for assistance and have all of their schooling paid for by the state with NO loans to pay back!! All he has to do is talk to someone in financial aid at the community college to see if he would qualify for any grants...not loans. At least the financial burden would not be as great. Worth checking in to it. FAFSA is a federal aid program. Maybe he could talk to someone at the school about it.