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  If you dont hear from me......

  by Stefanie in

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  its probably because im dead!

  i am sicker than a s*it!

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  cyber-sista

  Poor thing.

  I'd bring you soup if I knew where you lived

  and flowers

  hugs

  cybs
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  No Visit of Encouragement

  by CaptK in

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  i have a question that hopefully someone can answer.

  i am currently disfellowshiped but attending the sunday meetings at the kingdom hall.

  i live with my mother who is in her late 70's and has been a witness for over 50 years.

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  cyber-sista

  Tell your mom I love her and would stop and have tea with her if I could.

  and I would bring her a flower too

  cybs
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  My last post will be on 4/22/04

  by Brownboy in

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  now is your chance to post your true sentiments.

  this date will be my last post.. feel free to ridicule, humiliate, scorn, ravage, or whatever you all are used to..................as a disciple of christ, i should expect it.. brownboy

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  Feel free to ridicule, humiliate, scorn, ravage, or whatever you all are used to..................as a disciple of Christ, I should expect it.

  Well, I must have been one great disciple because this abuse is what happened to me, but it wasn't by people on the outside of the Organization, but from the people within the Organization. I put up with it for a while thinking it was somehow for greater good, but after a while I realized that it was nothing more than plain old abuse and I left and am now in the process of recovering from my time spent in the Org. I have nothing to say to you Brown Boy, but to wish you the best and much happiness in your life. I hope you find your way...

  cybs
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  Running into JW's

  by Dawn in

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  this past week i met an old friend for coffee - she's a x-jw also but still in the trap of thinking they are the "truth" - in fact, she's trying to get reinstated, but that's another topic i'll leave for another time.. as we were having coffee 2 car groups of jw's came in for their service break.

  her reaction was obvious to me that she felt uncomfortable with them there.

  as i was noticing her reaction i thought of the stages i have gone through since i was df'd.. at first i was embarassed and ashamed when i would run into jw's somewhere.

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  Dawn,

  Your post gave me hope that someday I can can overcome the feelings I am having at present whenever I have a JW encounter (anger, fear, feeling ill and shaky, etc). I know it just takes time and I will eventually move ahead with it. Anything that was especially helpful to you?

  cybs
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  Hope and Endurance in Brooklyn

  by NewYork44M in

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  hope and endurance in brooklyn.

  there may be a few that are aware that hope and endurance are the theme of the current two-day circuit assembly.

  last weekend i attended the assembly at the brooklyn assembly hall.

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  cyber-sista

  Education: They came down very hard on education. But this was the first time I remember that they gave a reason why. They stated that when a child goes to college the society loses the kid to the world. So the only logical solution is to do all we can to prevent these kids from going to college and getting a career.

  Seems like they had loosened up on education for the past 10 years or so or so I thought. I know of many JW kids who have gone to college, but I also know the talking to I got when my daughter--still living at home--was attending a community college. I thought it was just the congo I was in, but maybe the elders are getting a stricter message from the top now. Who knows--it's just creepy. I feel so much for the young ones who are stuck in there...
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  Why weren't (aren't) we appalled that God required a human sacrifice?

  by True North in

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  apologists for the genocidal behavior written of in the old testament have often stated that its victims simply got what they deserved, and that they deserved it in part because their unclean religious practices included human sacrifice, even the sacrifice of their own children.

  christians have long prided themselves in comparison to many pagan religions in that christian religious practice has never included human sacrifice and that christian principles would make one abhor such practices.

  so why did we (do we) so readily accept the concept that the christian god would require a human sacrifice -- of his own son, yet -- before he would allow himself to be propitiated?

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  And if mankind's sins are canceled out by means of Jesus' sacrifice, why in the world do we pray for forgiveness, aren't our sins blotted out?

  Good thinking question Agent 1. This is not the kind of thinking appreciated by the Org though. As one recent poster so eloquently put it though "I would rather have questions without answers than answers you cannot question."
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  Sheeplike behaviour?

  by boa in

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  k, i just have to relate one of the most ridiculous situations i've ever been in and it happened at bethel.. as most of you know, they have a monday night wt study.

  (this makes 3 times you study the article if you prepare for it, attend monday, then again on sunday - jeece!

  ) since in canadian bethel there isn't enough room to have everyone in the kh they have there, they put others in 'satellite' rooms and hook up with video/sound.. anyway, one night, the study had ended and we were moving on to the song when the sound kicked out but the video still worked.

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  Hey Boa,

  One of the last comments--I believer "the" last comment I ever made at the KH was during a Thurs meeting--one of those "Keeping Our Place of Worship Clean" talks. Anyway, it was a 15-20 minute part about cleaning the KH and all the different aspects of cleaning and maintaining the KH. I sat there beyond bored. The elder giving the talk was falling asleep on the platform--the audience was comatose--it was like everything was moving in slow motion. The elder was asking some kind of a question about cleaning the bathrooms and nobody was raising their hand--there was a long pause of uncomfortable silence. I was suddenly hit over the head with inspiration and my hand shot up like a rocket. The elder woke up, looked pleased and called on me immediately. I had recently read somewhere about bathroom cleaning and how important it is to clean the toilet bowl handle as it is the most often overlooked and is very germ laden--so I shared this bit of inspirational knowledge in my comment. The elder was nodding in appreciation of my brilliant (and most scientific) comment and the audience had momentarily snapped out of their stupor and were nodding and smiling in agreement. It was a great moment of KH glory for me--a brilliant gem of inspiration that I had shared with the congo. But then I was struck with the sudden thought--Oh, my God what am I doing here?--I just gave an inspirational speech about cleaning a toilet bowl handle and the rest of the congo were appearing to be impressed by it. It was a very surreal expereince, which occurred at the end of my WT daze...
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  Why weren't (aren't) we appalled that God required a human sacrifice?

  by True North in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  apologists for the genocidal behavior written of in the old testament have often stated that its victims simply got what they deserved, and that they deserved it in part because their unclean religious practices included human sacrifice, even the sacrifice of their own children.

  christians have long prided themselves in comparison to many pagan religions in that christian religious practice has never included human sacrifice and that christian principles would make one abhor such practices.

  so why did we (do we) so readily accept the concept that the christian god would require a human sacrifice -- of his own son, yet -- before he would allow himself to be propitiated?

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  Simon.....I think "the bible god" fits your description the best. The reasoning explained for mans situation in the bible is more ridiculous sounding than many pagans reasoning. It indeed paints god as a cruel, un-just bastard.

  Gumby

  Well, Gumby can't say these are the exact words I would use to say it, but I do agree with you as this is pretty much the way I am feeling these days.

  JC, I was having some bad Org flashbacks reading your post. I just can't get behind the whole extermination thing, like we are a bunch of bugs and God is the exterminator with the big old can of raid. There are just too many factors that play into the picture here. Just because a person goes to the 5 tedious uninspiring meetings a week in a room with walls but no windows, does a bit of reading and then goes door to door pedaling religious advertising magazines to people in hopes that they can convince these one that the road to salvation is to attend 5 religious meetings a week in a room with walls but no windows, do a bit of reading so that they too can go door to door pedaling religious advertising magazines in hopes that they too can convince others that the road ot salvation is to attend 5 relgious meetings a week...and on and on.

  I now believe this whole thing is a nightmare of sorts. And yes, I was always appalled that a God of love required human sacrifice, but I was too brainwashed at the time to sort it out in my head, but now that I am no longer attending the 5 meetings a week in room with only walls and no windows the view is much clearer to me now.
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  Disagreeing With God's Representative

  by Euphemism in

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  it's been a while since i posted anything biblical... christianity is not really my cup of tea anymore, except from a purely academic perspective.

  however, i just had an interesting thought today.

  the jws always say that you should submit your judgment to the organization.

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  cyber-sista

  This is a great topic and something I have been thinking of lately. I was thinking about the Christian trained conscience and how we were always told that we should not do anything that would go against our conscience. But I did have a 20 trained christian conscience which was screaming at me in the end and telling me how wrong the Org was. Now I am being condemned for exercising my " Christian trained" conscience.

  Also thinking about this point...Remember how the WT was always bringing out Prophetic patterns and the Org would liken themselves to the nation of Israel...but remember how the nation of Israel fell into a great apostasy in the end. No that I believe any of this anymore, but if I did the WT Org appears to be following the pattern of that fallen spiritual nation--the pharasees and their burdensome rules that enslaved people etc, etc...
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-18-04 WT Study

  by blondie in

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  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 4-18-04 (week of 4/12-18, 2004) wt study (march 1, 2004 issue)

  review comments will be in black and parentheses ().

  wt quotes will be in red and quotes "".

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  cyber-sista

  Thanks Blondie for all your hard work here. I still want to keep abreast as to what is going on in the Org. I still in there and family and want to know how far and in what direction they are being lead--it may help me to be able to help them someday. Besides that your WT studies are way more interesting than any I had ever experienced at the KH.

  Thanks again,

  Cybs