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  One Devastating Bible Passage

  by Farkel in

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  i used the following quote from mark 9:38-40 in another thread, but thought it might be worthy to have people comment about it in its own thread: .

  "john said to him: "teacher, we saw a certain man expeling demons by the use of your name and we tried to prevent him, because he was not accompanying us.

  but jesus said: "do not try to prevent him, for there is no one that will do a powerful work on the basis of my name that will quickly be able to revile me, for he that is not against us is for us.

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  Questions from Readers

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  How can we harmonize Matthew 12:30 with Mark 9:39, 40? The latter has been used to argue in favor of all the various religions that preach in Jesus? name.?R. K., Ohio.

  Mark 9:39, 40 is harmonious with Matthew 12:30, of course. In Matthew 12 the Pharisees displayed themselves as not being on Jesus? side because of their false accusations, and so Jesus said to them: "He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters." (Matt. 12:30, NW) The Pharisees were against him and were scattering Israelites away from him. But in Mark 9 the man involved was a fellow Israelite who was not falsifying about Jesus but who believed in the power of his name and was using it to cast out demons. The fact that he succeeded showed Jehovah God, Jesus? Father, did not disapprove or leave the man in the lurch. So how could Jesus object? The record shows that he did not: "John said to him: ?Teacher, we saw a certain man expelling demons by the use of your name and we tried to prevent him, because he was not accompanying us.? But Jesus said: ?Do not try to prevent him, for there is no one that will do a powerful work on the basis of my name that will quickly be able to revile me; for he that is not against us is for us.?"?Mark 9:38-40, NW.

  Not all believers in Jesus followed him along with the twelve apostles. Some who wanted to follow Jesus were told to go back home and bear witness to him there. (Mark 5:18-20) Hence it was not necessary for this man to bodily follow Jesus to be on his side. There were only two sides in this controversy, either for or against Jesus, and since he was not against him he was for Jesus. From Pentecost and the outpouring of the spirit on the faithful it would be necessary for this man to associate himself with the congregation of Christians in order to receive the spirit and be approved of God for not being against Jesus. It is different with the religious systems that now preach in Jesus? name. It cannot be said that all these are not against him for that reason, for they are against Jehovah?s faithful witnesses who do preach Jesus and his kingdom. So as they are against the least of these his brothers, they are against him and their mere use of Jesus? name does not gain favorable recognition of them as true followers. Matthew 7:20-23 (NW) applies to them:
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  The Internet and Apostasy

  by CakeMonkey in

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  has the internet and forums like these caused an exodus from the j-dubs?

  when i left in the early 1990s i met support groups through the yellow pages but it still felt like i was the only one in the world who was an apostate.

  i've come to this forum in the last year to browse because my brother has now left.

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  There are over 10 TIMES the amount of "opposing web sites" against the WTS as there are for the Catholic Church! The Catholic Church has 995,000,000 more followers than the WTS. In fact, I believe I read that the number of "opposing sites" against the WTS are more than opposing sites for all other Christian religions combined.
  
  Why? The WTS is a sham, a fraud, an outright deception, unChristian and a destroyer of minds

  Why? Is is because they have the truth and it was phophesied that Jesus followers would be persecuted and that is how they know they have the truth.
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  As a JW, Did You Ever Look DownOn Other Witnesses???

  by minimus in

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  and were you ever looked down upon?

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  I looked down on very few as a witness and now I know I am looked down upon for asking to many questions and making too many waves.

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  BLOOD -- WTS Questions and Sound Answers 12

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  blood -- wts questions and sound answers 12

  the wts writes:

  "abel never ate flesh with its blood, which is its soul or life.

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  It would seem quite obvious that Adam and Eve and their offspring ate animals long before the flood and the supposed permission that God gave man to eat animals after embarking from off the ark.

  Do you think that God was displeased with Cain's sacrifice because he didn't kill something to sacrifice to Jehovah? Maybe God liked to see the killing of animals since about half the animals he created ate each other and the other half ate vegetation. This being the case long before sacrifices and Adam's sin and God needing to have his son killed to buy back what Adam lost.
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  BLOOD -- WTS Questions and Sound Answers 9

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  blood -- wts questions and sound answers 9

  the decree issued to noah answers the question of what blood god required righteous persons to abstain from.

  the blood humans should abstain from is the same blood noah had to abstain from -- the blood of animals killed for food.

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  Thank you for your reply Marvin. I will check out the link.
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  BLOOD -- WTS Questions and Sound Answers 9

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  blood -- wts questions and sound answers 9

  the decree issued to noah answers the question of what blood god required righteous persons to abstain from.

  the blood humans should abstain from is the same blood noah had to abstain from -- the blood of animals killed for food.

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  I should probably know this but I will ask anyway. Was blood used sacrifically on altars before the time of the mosaic law covenant or was only the animal, drained of its blood, used in sacrifice?

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  The Best of ... JanH - Blasts from the past

  by Lady Lee in

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/4556/1.ashx.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/4820/1.ashx.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/5460/1.ashx.

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  More great reading to do!
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  If you had to change one thing you did while being a JW, what would it be?

  by MelbaToast in

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  i have seen so many stories here that invoke guilt and shame on innocents, what one important momyumental thing would you have changed if you had it to do over?.

  mine would be not getting baptized.

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  Ditto on baptism and also wish I would have woken up sooner.
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  How Do You Regard Yourself?

  by minimus in

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  are you happy about who you are?

  do you look down upon yourself?

  are ya feelin' pretty good about yourself these days??

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  Maverick said:

  As for me...the older I get, the less I know, and I'm not too happy about THAT fact.

  I can certainly relate to that fact. I thought I knew all I needed to as dub and then some. Wow what a ride since I realized that was not the case.

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  Congregation sizes - Real reason from C.O. testimonial

  by DaCheech in

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  last night my mother has confided in me that her best's friends brother was a circuit overseer.. she told my mom that the society instructs all c.o.

  to keep congregation sizes small for the.

  pure reason that: if so everybody can be closely watched, monitored, and known!.

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  They want to keep it like a cozy little family.