jeff - that is very cool - hope you enjoy the feeling of freedom all over again :)
alliwannadoislive
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Some good news.
by JeffT ina prostate biopsy i had last week came back negative.
i didn't really realize how worried about it i was until i found our i didn't have to worry about it at all (or at least until next year).. my daughter got a part in two plays.
for those of you in oz (she's in sydney) i'll post details when i get them.
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Meeting Clothes
by Smoldering Wick indoes anyone want my old suits?
i only wear them to meetings, so i haven't used them for years.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=22552&site=3 .
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alliwannadoislive
the thing is, the collective have to wear certain types of clothes away from the kingdum hell as well (ty for the description blue :)
there's so many things you can't wear at all - ever ! ... such as cool black band shirts with stuff like 'NIN' emblazoned all over them (satanic like 'that terrible music you surely don't listen to') or anything remotely militaristic looking, or beards ...
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Looking for New game Ideas...have new Smurfs!
by Valis ini recently ran accross some new smurfs, i have papa, smurfette, and an unnamed smurf.
they are about 12 inches tall, stuffed toy smurfs...probably are full of those little foam pellets that get everywhere and pollute the environment, but they're cute so what the hell...*l* i need game ideas that aren't too time intensive, but not too easy for most apostates...as well, i know where all the good smurf stuff is, so if you're looking for smurfanalia let me know.. sincerely, .
district overbeer
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alliwannadoislive
awh valis but smurfs are so not cool ... (pouts) ... can't we have the korn doll as our mascot ? ... huh ? huh ? huh ? ... pllllease ? ... korn have loadsa songs about not nice things ...
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Last visit to KH today - DA letter - Official XJW
by alliwannadoislive inwell, i've been procrastinating this for some time now and taken my counsel from you fine people here but i finally made what will be my last journey ever to the kingdom hall today and posted my disassociation letter into the postbox.
with fine tuning over past weeks, this is what finally went into it:.
dear xxx.
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thanks digderidoo - biggest thing i think i've learned from being a jw is the opposite of what they hold in their heads and i 'embrace' my faults and shortcomings rather than continually make myself feel imperfect and undeserving ...
eman ! you made my heart lurch there ! ... funnily enough, when i first contacted the congregation all those years ago, it was the brother you mentioned that called with the paradise book !
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Last visit to KH today - DA letter - Official XJW
by alliwannadoislive inwell, i've been procrastinating this for some time now and taken my counsel from you fine people here but i finally made what will be my last journey ever to the kingdom hall today and posted my disassociation letter into the postbox.
with fine tuning over past weeks, this is what finally went into it:.
dear xxx.
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hey termite35, farkel and bluesapphire - thank you for your comments - helps me in moving on ...
farkel - lol - i have already had one phone call from someone i named in the letter and she said she would never shun me ... also, the references to the UN seem to have been news to the recipients ... the circuit overseer is visiting next week and can apparently expect some close questioning ... and ... gulp ... i feel i may have a special visit ...
oops ... edit required ... forgot to say to bluesapphire - you absolutely can use any of the letter if you wish - i'll be spiritually with you when you write yours ...
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Last visit to KH today - DA letter - Official XJW
by alliwannadoislive inwell, i've been procrastinating this for some time now and taken my counsel from you fine people here but i finally made what will be my last journey ever to the kingdom hall today and posted my disassociation letter into the postbox.
with fine tuning over past weeks, this is what finally went into it:.
dear xxx.
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alliwannadoislive
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smoldering wick
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jbeanwow you people are so so cool - thank you all for your expressions of support - in this environment we are in some respects only 'virtual' but i really feel the fellowship and warmth from you all that was always missing in the congregation ... genuine thanks to you!
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Last visit to KH today - DA letter - Official XJW
by alliwannadoislive inwell, i've been procrastinating this for some time now and taken my counsel from you fine people here but i finally made what will be my last journey ever to the kingdom hall today and posted my disassociation letter into the postbox.
with fine tuning over past weeks, this is what finally went into it:.
dear xxx.
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alliwannadoislive
well, i've been procrastinating this for some time now and taken my counsel from you fine people here but i finally made what will be my last journey ever to the kingdom hall today and posted my disassociation letter into the postbox
with fine tuning over past weeks, this is what finally went into it:
Dear XXX
I am sorry that I haven’t spoken to you in ages. I have been feeling guilty about not being around when you have called.
Along with my apologies also come my thanks and appreciation for your determination in maintaining contact with me.
I haven’t associated with the congregation for some years now, in fact not since 1997. Throughout these years, I have continued to maintain a belief and confidence in Jehovah. I would say that you and a few others have helped me in that respect. The ones I would particularly single out apart from yourself are XXX, XXX and XXX. Each of you have displayed what comes across to me as a Christian kindness and concern. Some others have, I regret to say, shunned me and my children, albeit perhaps through embarrassment.
For quite some months now, I have been reflecting on this and the events that led to me becoming inactive.
As you know, I have had a great plague brought down upon my family, and try as I have, I cannot help but think that this would not have happened if my family had been protected from ‘wolves disguised as sheep’. I can understand the Society’s rules on maintaining confidentiality with personal information, but this policy placed my marriage and family in grave danger. I have since found out that XXX had ‘history’ of destroying families, yet nobody at any time approached me and told me of the extreme danger that this person posed.
I do not view anyone as personally responsible for what happened except the perpetrator. I would hate for you or anyone else to blame yourselves, but I would hope that a policy change in the organisation would come about. How many more innocent people and their marriages, families and children have to be placed at risk before something is done about it ?
I truly appreciate the time and effort you have spent in delivering the Watchtower and Awake! magazines to me. They have served to reassure me of Jehovah’s existence and my faith in him.
However, issues have been emerging for me for a while now that have caused me concern. These include further changes and ‘new understandings’ relating to the use of blood products and another, although relatively minor, the appropriateness of voting in political elections. The arguments delivered through ‘Questions from readers’ and set out in long complex explanations remind me of Matt 23:24 which reads ‘… who strain out the gnat but gulp down the camel.’ Especially as, reading between the lines, these changes are being brought about by what appears to me as political manoeuvering rather than spiritual enlightenment.
The United Nations
What really has shaken my confidence in the Society though, is the news that was reported a few months ago in The Guardian - a printout from the Guardian website is aside.
I can recognise the words within the report that are malicious or incorrect, but the actual facts reported are that the Society has been associated with the United Nations since 1991. The Society have since admitted this and have given reasons for their association. However, based on their teachings to me over the past 20 years, I find it absolutely unacceptable
If I or any other one of Jehovah’s Witnesses had done this, then we would have been disfellowshipped. This whole situation smacks of hypocrisy and removes all illusions I had of an organisation true to Jehovah. Either the United Nations is the ‘disgusting thing … standing in a holy place’ or it is not. Either way, I believe the Society have unforgivably compromised themselves.
The Society has in the meantime resigned their membership.
My dedication to Jehovah
I dedicated my life to Jehovah before the public declaration was changed to one of subjecting oneself to an earthly organisation. I believe that a day will come when I will have to explain my choices and behaviour before God, and I would like the choices I have made to be ones I have made myself and with a clear conscience rather than those of someone who has written something today and will change it to something else tomorrow.
I understand that this letter will identify me as someone with independent thinking. However, I find reassurance in the words of Galileo Galilei:
‘I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.’
I now know that I wish to permanently disassociate myself from the international organisation known as ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses’. Luke 6:22,23.
It’s with a heavy heart that I choose this path and to face certain shunning from people such as yourself, that I have the greatest of respect for. I do not and never would seek to weaken your faith or to work against you.
May Jehovah continue to bless you and your family as well as the ones in the congregation who truly serve the one true God.
Yours sincerely
and there it is, i am now an official XJW and for me, the borg is dead ...
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Want to embarrass the JWs? An idea
by dmouse inok, so i admit to impliment this idea takes more balls than i've got but i know there are some crazy ex jws out there (no offence intended, i love you all!
) that it might appeal to.. that idea is streaking!!!!.
i was watching a program on tv last night streaking (running butt naked into a crowded public arena) and perhaps mainly the uk members remember the stir caused by erica roe?.
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alliwannadoislive
i was there at 'The Dell' in Southampton when we had a real life butt-nekkid streaker - one of the ministerial servants from my (then) congregation was running after the guy trying to cover him with his jacket - it was hilarious but difficult not to laugh ... ahem ...
also on a different year at Southampton we had a bomb scare and were evacuated to Southampton Common (i hear eman saying common is appropriate for scummers ...)
these were great ways to create conventions that were actually interesting and memorable ...
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Leave your cadaver to medical science ??????
by alliwannadoislive ininteresting little thought .... i've decided to dedicate my body to medical school, and just before i die, i'm going to swallow a little plastic toy.
that way, the medical student who cuts me open will get a nice surprise.
i just hope the other medical students aren't sad because they didn't get a toy with their cadaver, too.
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alliwannadoislive
hippi - the jack-in-the-box is a v cool idea ! ... although, about using my body until then, i'm a guy, what about you ?
as for the rest of you - you're all mad ! - good to be associating with y'all ...
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Leave your cadaver to medical science ??????
by alliwannadoislive ininteresting little thought .... i've decided to dedicate my body to medical school, and just before i die, i'm going to swallow a little plastic toy.
that way, the medical student who cuts me open will get a nice surprise.
i just hope the other medical students aren't sad because they didn't get a toy with their cadaver, too.
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alliwannadoislive
in some ways i'd like to go for a caramel centre
the soft-centres always get chosen first right ?