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Thank you for redirecting me to the right organization!

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thank you, jw.net and cofty, for redirecting me to the right organization!.

when i posted why did god permit scriptures to be corrupted?

then i thought, if there is an organization that believes all scriptures are corrupted (which obviously makes it enemy of all religions), that organization is not ordinary, but gutsy, lionhearted, and worthy of close examination!

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Thank you, JW.net and Cofty, for redirecting me to the right organization!

When I posted “Why did God permit Scriptures to be corrupted?” (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/225590001/why-did-god-permit-scriptures-corrupted) a week before, Cofty commented that its contents reminded him of Brahmakumaris organization.

Then I thought, if there is an organization that believes all Scriptures are corrupted (which obviously makes it enemy of all religions), that organization is not ordinary, but gutsy, lionhearted, and worthy of close examination! I went straight into their local congregation (what they call Rajayoga Meditation center), and expressed my desire to know more about them. The sister-in-charge (similar to JW Presiding Overseer) told me that their course is for one hour daily for seven days (conducted free of charge) which would cover all the necessary things to equip one to be a child of God.

I told her: “You can start the first day course right now, and continue for the next six days.” Thus I completed all seven subjects (as given below):

1) How to control your thoughts and thus to take charge of your destiny?

2) Who I am, and eight powers of the spirit

3) Nature, role and acts of God

4) Cultivating a sweet relationship with God

5) You reap as you sow

6) History repeats itself through five Ages—Golden, Silver, Copper, Iron—each of which is of 1250 years duration and Diamond Age or Age of Illumination (100 years from 1936, when God Himself teaches and trains the willing people into golden-aged ones)

7) History of religions. God-established divine religion remains through first two Ages—in growth and decline mode. Then great Fall into egoism occurs with divisiveness setting in with all weed-like religions making their appearance on the world scene and growing like an inverted tree as they convert worship into an exercise aimed at material benefits which is in contrast to the very meaning of the word religion (relegere = to reconnect with God)

My conclusion:

When I completed the seven-day course, my conclusion is this:

If judged from the fruitage, JWs represent the “foolish virgins” and Brahmakumaris the “wise virgins” (Mathew 25:1-13). JWs acted foolishly treating woman inferior and not even greeting those who differ with them which also amounts to ‘beating the fellow-humans’ (Mathew 24:49), thus failed to represent the God whose very essence is equality and benevolence towards all humans. (Mathew 5:44-48). In contrast, Brahmakumaris have everything to be called “wise virgins”—literally and figuratively. To mention a few of their fruits:

1) They get up “very early in the morning” to spend time remembering and talking to God. (Mark 1:35). (Meditation daily from 4 AM to 5 AM in their respective houses, and 6.30 to 8 AM in their Meditation Halls). This is something only the self-motivated ones can do—something which no cults can accomplish.

2) They are focused on the invisible behind the visible (Mathew 6:22; Luke 18:18-19) and do everything as an offering to God, wherever they are—observed or unobserved. (Colossians 3:23)—again something no cults can enforce on their members.

3) Diamond Age (which is running now) is for reclaiming the lost spirituality (not for pleasure-seeking) thus to prepare for Golden Age, hence all women are treated as sisters and men as brothers. (Mathew 23:9; 5:28) (Originally it was all about asexual reproduction, and sexual reproduction came later. http://www.trueorigin.org/sex01.php)

4) No special favors to own family members/relatives. (Mathew 23:9; 12:46-50) God is viewed in a ‘husbandly’ relationship, and doing His will is viewed as “food.” (Isaiah 54:5; John 4:34; 6:38)

5) Be good and holy because God is good and holy. (Mark 10:18; Mathew 7:11; James 1;17; 1 Peter 1:16)

6) All humans are spirit beings in this temporary “tent” called physical body. (John 5:24; 6:38; 8:42; 13:1; 17:5; John 4:24 Compare Ecclesiastes 12:7 and Mark 12:26-27; Mathew 5:3, 8, 9).

7) Every soul carries within it tendencies formed in the past indefinite, and may continue to future indefinite (Mathew 12:3, 35 compare Mathew 11:14. Luke 16:31); hence most people may repeat their habits—and if anyone wants to change, he can do so only in Diamond Age.

8) Vices such as lust, anger, greed, pride … originate from body-consciousness (Mark 7:21-23; Galatians 5:19-21) and are conquered when one returns to soul-consciousness. (Galatians 5:22 – 26; John 16:33)

9) God does not intervene in the affairs of mankind as the principle of “sow and reap” is omnipresent. (Mathew 12:36; 23:12; Luke 6:38) God does only one act—RECREATION of heaven on earth whenever it decays to its extreme.

10) This Iron (dark) Age will be replaced by Golden Age, which will deteriorate in due course to become Iron Age again. (Mathew 12:32; 19:28; 13:33) When decline of Iron Age reaches its climax, it is destroyed by the use of WMD in the man-made global war. (Mathew 24:21; 26:52) And cycle repeats itself ‘indefinitely.’ (Ecclesiastes 1:9, 10)

11) Those who love the “light” will be born in all the five Ages in appropriate place according to each one’s merit whereas others will have varying number of births starting from Copper Age through Iron Age in appropriate places according to each one’s merit. (John 3:19-21; Luke 6:38) The more spiritual one is, the higher the number of births he receives in more favorable circumstances, and vice versa. In other words, in a cycle, there are some who receive upto 84 births spread through the entire cycle, and there are some who receive just one birth—that too towards the end of Iron Age. And there are others who receive births in varying numbers from 83 to 2. This explains why the population gradually increases to touch the explosive level in the last generation!

12) Women show keener insight into spirituality than men (Mathew 26:10-13; contrast John 6:60) and were appointed to impart vital spiritual truth to men (John 4; 20:16-18)

13) Purpose of life is to become like our Heavenly Father, manifesting His qualities in everything we do. What is required is only a change of attitude! (Mathew 5:44-48; Genesis 11:6) This is achievable for anyone, if he/she wants to; because Spirit is more powerful than the body (John 6:63), and such one is also helped by the Father. (Luke 11:13)

14) Spirituality also means qualifying to be called “friend of God,” (James 2:23; Hebrew 11:16) having a guest-attitude while living on earth, considering oneself as a ‘temporary resident’ here, which means living in remembrance of ‘returning to one’s original home, a better place,’ (Hebrews 11:13-16 Compare Philippians 3:20), viewing the world as a drama stage. (1 Corinthians 7:31; 1 John 2:17)

15) God is not partial to any nation or religion; but goes by fruitage one produces. (Mathew 7:16-23; 21:43)

Interestingly, Brahmakumaris organization sprouted on the world scene in the year 1936 (which is 2520 years after 586 BCE which is the actual year of Jerusalem’s Fall (not 607 BCE as JWs wrongly calculated) http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11407-nebuchadnezzar; Encyclopedia.com; The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Eerdmans, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1982, page 1016 ….). It seems JWs, who took “the place of honor” without checking whether ‘another organization more distinguished than them might have been invited’ or not, are all set to hear from the Master: ‘Give this one your seat.’ (Luke 14:8, 9)

Thank you JW.net, and special thanks to Cofty.

(No more posts from me, as I want to leave my past where it belongs to)

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Why did God permit Scriptures to be corrupted?

by economy in

if someone informs you that your shop caught fire, and firefighters are on the job, you will run to the spot.

however, if you had already sold that property on the previous day (which this messenger is ignorant of), you are likely to respond, saying: shop is not mine..

situation is same with god.

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cofty

I mentioned about Gita to show the back-firing effect of interpolation, and also to highlight that no scripture is immune to tampering, no matter what religion it belongs to.

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Why did God permit Scriptures to be corrupted?

by economy in

if someone informs you that your shop caught fire, and firefighters are on the job, you will run to the spot.

however, if you had already sold that property on the previous day (which this messenger is ignorant of), you are likely to respond, saying: shop is not mine..

situation is same with god.

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cofty

What question is this? I am hearing of this group for first time.

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Why did God permit Scriptures to be corrupted?

by economy in

if someone informs you that your shop caught fire, and firefighters are on the job, you will run to the spot.

however, if you had already sold that property on the previous day (which this messenger is ignorant of), you are likely to respond, saying: shop is not mine..

situation is same with god.

economy

If someone informs you that your shop caught fire, and firefighters are on the job, you will run to the spot. However, if you had already sold that property on the previous day (which this messenger is ignorant of), you are likely to respond, saying: “Shop is not mine.”

Situation is same with God. He would not have permitted anyone to interpolate Scriptures with contradicting concepts, if they did belong to Him. On the contrary, if scriptures originated with humans, it is possible to be tampered with.

1) What type of food may be eaten by human beings—vegetarian or non-vegetarian?
Vegetarian (Genesis 1:29; Isaiah 66:3)
Non-vegetarian (Luke 15:23; 24: 42, 43)

2) Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?
Yes (Matthew 11:14, 17:10-13).
No (John 1:19-21)

Those who take liberty to do whatever they like with the Scriptures do not realize that they are not only neutralizing the effect of the scripture, but also paving the way for people to take from scriptures what they find convenient to them. For example:

Mahatma Gandhi made a national movement of “non-violence” quoting from his Scripture Bhagavat Gita (16:2) and got independence to his country from the enslavement by Britain.

His assassin too quoted the same Scripture during his trial as his basis for assassinating the person who became the very symbol of non-violence. Because Gandhi’s assassin did not know that the little portion that is now called Bhagavat Gita has been interpolated into Mahabharat Epic in a WRONG context where God is shown as urging the hero to take up arms, without any hesitation, against family members, relatives, and teachers if they are on the side of unrighteousness. Yet the essence of Bhagavat Gita is non-violence, non-attachment and renunciation of everything what is mundane (18:66)—subjects that are unlikely to be discussed just before a great war!

‘All scripture is inspired of man and non-beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in unrighteousness.’

No wonder we have a God in the Bible who asks us to ‘greet everyone’ (Mathew 5:44-48) and also asks us ‘not to greet those believing differently.’ (2 John 10)

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Paranormal activity in a room at Ohio University

by economy in

why this room (no 428), located at ohio university, is unavailable to students?.

it has been boarded up and closed off because of various paranormal reports regarding the room.

poltergeist activity has been felt: objects flying across the room, doors that open and shut by themselves, and dark shadows appearing and disappearing without explanation.

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Why This room (No 428), located at Ohio University, is unavailable to students?

It has been boarded up and closed off because of various paranormal reports regarding the room. Poltergeist activity has been felt: objects flying across the room, doors that open and shut by themselves, and dark shadows appearing and disappearing without explanation. The creepiest thing about this room is the demon-like face that appears in the wood grain of the door. The door has been replaced multiple times only to have the face appear again. The apparition is known to be playful, and is said to be the spirit of a student that committed suicide in the room. If being a freshman at a college university wasn’t stressful enough, imagine having to share your dorm with a ghost! (http://listverse.com/2013/07/02/top-10-more-mysterious-phenomena/)

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A rarest of rare inventions made—it is better to remain open-minded!

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it seems even the famous scientific laws such as the law of conservation of energy (and lenz's law, which forms the basis of mechanics and thermodynamics laws that suggests machines cannot attain over a 100% efficiency) are all not ultimate.

someone has already succeeded in developing a space generator, a super high-efficiency machine that produces power from vacuum.

the thing is going commercial now with a famous electric company purchasing its the patent.

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hoser

Here is inventor's site:

http://www.rexresearch.com/tewari/tewari.htm

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A rarest of rare inventions made—it is better to remain open-minded!

by economy in

it seems even the famous scientific laws such as the law of conservation of energy (and lenz's law, which forms the basis of mechanics and thermodynamics laws that suggests machines cannot attain over a 100% efficiency) are all not ultimate.

someone has already succeeded in developing a space generator, a super high-efficiency machine that produces power from vacuum.

the thing is going commercial now with a famous electric company purchasing its the patent.

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hoser

Things considered to be unbelievable until yesterday may become believable today. Hence the heading: ‘Better to have open mind.’ Change is the only constant, hence open-mind only would make things acceptable. Otherwise we will go on arguing. Open mind means looking for the principle behind the change. It’s like saying: It is wrong to drive at night with lights off, and again it’s wrong to drive at night with lights on during war-time. Law changed, but principle is same during both the occasions—safety of people.

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A rarest of rare inventions made—it is better to remain open-minded!

by economy in

it seems even the famous scientific laws such as the law of conservation of energy (and lenz's law, which forms the basis of mechanics and thermodynamics laws that suggests machines cannot attain over a 100% efficiency) are all not ultimate.

someone has already succeeded in developing a space generator, a super high-efficiency machine that produces power from vacuum.

the thing is going commercial now with a famous electric company purchasing its the patent.

economy

Witness My Fury,

My post ends saying: “Keeping an open-mind, and working on self-improvement seems to be more right.”

If improvement is “100% bullshit more like,” then question would arise: What name would we give to bullshit? You may feel talk on improvement is bs because you find decline in certain aspects of life. However, improvement is possible when there is self-control. Self-control is possible if we want to—because not all of those who feel like killing somebody may not do so every time when they have a reason to do so; but they may refrain from doing so thinking about the consequences. This shows humans know how and when to show self-control. This approach can be adopted in all other aspects of life.

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A rarest of rare inventions made—it is better to remain open-minded!

by economy in

it seems even the famous scientific laws such as the law of conservation of energy (and lenz's law, which forms the basis of mechanics and thermodynamics laws that suggests machines cannot attain over a 100% efficiency) are all not ultimate.

someone has already succeeded in developing a space generator, a super high-efficiency machine that produces power from vacuum.

the thing is going commercial now with a famous electric company purchasing its the patent.

economy

It seems even the famous scientific laws such as the LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ENERGY (and LENZ'S LAW, which forms the basis of mechanics and thermodynamics laws that suggests machines cannot attain over a 100% efficiency) are all not ultimate. Someone has already succeeded in developing a space generator, a super high-efficiency machine that produces power from vacuum. The thing is going commercial now with a famous Electric company purchasing its the patent. (http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/Article.aspx?eid=31815&articlexml=BYE-BYE-TO-POWER-CUTS-No-Empty-Talk-07042015007047) A prototype of the machine tested by Kirloskar Electric exhibited 165% efficiency.

The breakthrough for the inventor (a former director of the Kaiga Atomic Power Station) came last year when his machine achieved an efficiency of 238%, which means it produced 2.38 times the electrical power provided to it initially, making it the first to achieve this. This essentially defies the Law of Conservation of Energy and in the case of electrical generators, Lenz's Law, which forms the basis of mechanics and thermodynamics laws that suggests machines cannot attain over a 100% efficiency.

The generator requires an initial infusion of power through a battery or AC supply, following which it produces power sustaining itself on electrons in a vacuum, without requiring external supply. “Space is the only reality, and has the potential to produce massive amounts of power if put through right technology,“ said the inventor.

This news has something to do with us. Leaning towards atheism or theism is not something to be done in haste. Both has its own limitations. Science has made revisions, hence cannot be looked to as a high priest. So are religions which are nothing but speculations.

It looks to me that God exists, yet He behaves as though He does not exist (as a result of which theists and atheists both feel confident about their respective views). If God has confidence in His design—human beings, He won’t intervene in their affairs (which would give the impression that He doesn’t exist). It seems God does have confidence in Humans as He knows humans can easily solve their problems, if they want to. For example,

1) Humans can take the good points of all political systems and design a new one (the same can be done with religion, language ………)

2) Humans can copy the habits of some exceptional humans who live a healthy life-style which helps them to remain virtually diseases-free till their death.

3) Humans can replace the present judicial system (of punishment to the criminals) with a system that makes the criminal do double compensation to the victim which will eradicate the crime itself (if the criminal is bankrupt, compensation could be taken from his relatives, his community, all the educational institutions where he got his schooling, religion he belongs to ….—all of which are responsible for the building of individuals)

Since humans have the ability to solve all their problems and have ability even to become like God, God will not intervene in the affairs of mankind. This means:

1) God has left humans to determine their destiny (which means theists are right)

2) God will not intervene when humans misuse their free-will (which will be interpreted as He does not exit—which means atheists are also right)

Keeping an open-mind, and working on self-improvement seems to be more right!

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The Privileged Planet: How Our Place in the Cosmos is Designed for Discovery by Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay Richards

by Slidin Fast in

someone raised this book/film to me recently as scientific argument for intelligent design.

i have neither read it or seen it as a film (i hesitate to classify it as a documentary).

having done a little research it seems to be at the least be viewed as controversial by the scientific community.

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Both are right.

It looks to me that God has confidence in His design (earth and humans …). He knows humans can easily solve their problems, IF THEY WANT TO. For example,

1) Humans can take the good points of all political systems and design a new one (the same can be done with religion, language …)

2) Humans can copy the habits of some exceptional humans who live a healthy life-style diseases-free till their death.

3) Humans can replace the present judicial system of punishment to the criminals with a system that makes the criminal do double compensation to the victim which will eradicate the crime itself (if the criminal is bankrupt, compensation should be taken from his relatives, community he lives in, religion he belongs to—all of whom are responsible for the building of individuals)

Since humans have the ability to solve all their problems and have ability to become even like God, God will not intervene in the affairs of mankind. This means:

1) God designed the earth for human habitation and left to humans to determine their destiny (which means theists are right)

2) God will not intervene when humans misuse their free-will (which will be interpreted as He does not exit—which means atheist are also right).