Posts by mineralogist

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bank/credit-card accespoint in JW-convensionhall

by Ozner in

the 2 jw convension-halls in the netherlands have now a bank/credit-card accespoint to give contribution to the wts with your bank or creditcards.

do you know this happens in other country's?

it is really strange to see that brs&srs are giving donations with their visa & mastercards.

mineralogist

I see no postings from other country's

just wait a little bit for information, e.g. the german conventions start July 2

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What open spaces do jws provide?

by badboy in

jw
friends

in the describtion given in the charity commission website,they give providing open spaces as one of the things they do,what open spaces?

mineralogist

Children playing in the parking lot when no meetings are

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Were there any disabled people in your congregation?

by badboy in

jw
friends

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only asking.. only i have heard that they make a special efforts to recruit disabled people in my area.

mineralogist

buildings should be accessible to disabled people

Maybe you could come in ... but don't expect to be able to participate in TMS: the stage normally has 2 steps to overcome - alt or similar handicappes disqualify you.

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June 2004 Kingdom Ministry, anyone?

by drwtsn32 in

jw
friends

could someone tell me the title for an article out of this km?

no reason in particular...

Correcting Falsehoods About Ray Franz's Beliefs (Holy Spirit, Trinity)

by allpoweredup in

jw
friends

see what he himself says at http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-holyspirit.html i was told many falsehoods by watchtower diehards such as he is now "a rabid trinitarian," "a nondenominalist or pentecostal.

" also he's transdenominalist (associates with christians and others) not just those of one belief system.

i'm sure many of you also heard a lot of falsehoods put out about him.

mineralogist

My main concern is that elders all over have been totally misinformed about the man.

Of course he is to be viewed as the worsed apostate ever! (in the eyes of the WTS)

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Does the WTBTS claim to be "the vine"?

by marsal in

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i just read on another exjw site that the wtbts claims to be the vine spoken of in john 15. do they really teach that?

i don't remember hearing that before.

mineralogist

It is taken from this

*** w90 8/15 p. 8 Enjoying an Intimate Relationship ***At Pentecost, 51 days later, the apostles and others become branches of the vine when holy spirit is poured out on them. Eventually, 144,000 persons become branches of the figurative grapevine. Along with the vine stem, Jesus Christ, these make up a symbolic vine that produces the fruits of God?s Kingdom.

*** w81 3/1 p. 27 Do You Appreciate the "Faithful and Discreet Slave"? ***
OVERWHELMING CREDENTIALSThe "faithful and discreet slave" has abundant credentials. Following is a partial list of Scriptural and prophetic designations applying to or being represented in the remnant of Jesus Christ?s anointed followers since the notable year 1919:
(1) Noah?s wife, Gen. 7:7; (2) angels sent to Lot, Gen. 19:15; (3) Rebekah, Gen. 24:64; (4) Joseph and Benjamin, Gen. 45:14; (5) gleanings left behind, Lev. 19:9; (6) two spies to Rahab, Josh. 2:4; (7) Barak, Judg. 4:14; (8) Jephthah, Judg. 11:34; (9) Naomi and Ruth, Ruth 2:2; (10) David?s Israelite warriors, 2 Sam. 18:1; (11) Jehu, 2 Ki. 10:11, 15; (12) Mordecai and Esther, Esther 4:13; (13) Job, Job 42:10, 13; (14) King?s daughter, Ps. 45:13; (15) men of loving-kindness, Ps. 50:5; (16) intimate group, Ps. 89:7; (17) Shear-jashub, Isa. 7:3; (18) light of the nations, Isa. 60:3; (19) big trees of righteousness, Isa. 61:3; (20) ministers of our God, Isa. 61:6; (21) cluster preserved, Isa. 65:8; (22) servants called by another name, Isa. 65:15; (23) men trembling at God?s word, Isa. 66:5; (24) new nation born, Isa. 66:8; (25) Jeremiah, Jer. 1:10; (26) Jehovah?s people in the new covenant, Jer. 31:33; (27) enduring watchman, Ezek. 3:16-27; (28) man in linen, Ezek. 9:2; (29) cleansed people, Ezek. 36:29-32; (30) dwellers in center of earth, Ezek. 38:12; (31) the host of heaven, Dan. 8:10; (32) sanctuary restored (cleansed), Dan. 8:14; (33) they that are wise, Dan. 11:33; (34) the happy one who is keeping in expectation, Dan. 12:12; (35) all flesh receiving the spirit, Joel 2:28; (36) Jonah, Jon. 3:1-3; (37) apple of Jehovah?s eye, Zech. 2:8; (38) liberated remnant, Zech. 2:7; (39) a Jew, Zech. 8:23; (40) sons of Levi, Mal. 3:3; (41) wheat, Matt. 13:25; (42) sons of the kingdom, Matt. 13:38; (43) workers for the vineyard, Matt. 20:1; (44) those invited to marriage feast, Matt. 22:3-14; (45) chosen ones, Matt. 24:22; (46) eagles, Matt. 24:28; (47) faithful and discreet slave, Matt. 24:45; (48) discreet virgins, Matt. 25:2; (49) brothers of the king, Matt. 25:40; (50) little flock of sheep, Luke 12:32; (51) beggar Lazarus, Luke 16:20; (52) sheep in "this fold," John 10:1-16; (53) branches of the vine, John 15:4; (54) royal palace of David, Acts 15:16; (55) heirs with Christ, Rom. 8:17; (56) the remnant, Rom. 11:5; (57) branches in the olive tree, Rom. 11:24; (58) holy ones or saints, 1 Cor. 6:2; Rev. 16:6; (59) temple, 1 Cor. 6:19; (60) new creation, 2 Cor. 5:17; (61) ambassadors for Christ, 2 Cor. 5:20; (62) congregation of God, Gal. 1:13; (63) part of Abraham?s seed, Gal. 3:29; (64) Israel of God, Gal. 6:16; (65) body of Christ, Eph. 1:22, 23; (66) soldiers of Christ Jesus, 2 Tim. 2:3; (67) house under Christ, Heb. 3:6; (68) holy priesthood, 1 Pet. 2:5; (69) holy nation, 1 Pet. 2:9; (70) association of brothers, 1 Pet. 2:17; (71) seven congregations, Rev. 1:20; (72) twenty-four persons of advanced age, Rev. 4:4; (73) spiritual Israel, Rev. 7:4; (74) locusts, Rev. 9:3; (75) two witnesses, Rev. 11:3; (76) two olive trees, Rev. 11:4; (77) seed of the woman, Rev. 12:17; (78) New Jerusalem, Rev. 21:2; (79) the bride of Christ, Rev. 22:17; 19:7; (80) Jehovah?s witnesses, Isa. 43:10.

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Correcting Falsehoods About Ray Franz's Beliefs (Holy Spirit, Trinity)

by allpoweredup in

jw
friends

see what he himself says at http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-holyspirit.html i was told many falsehoods by watchtower diehards such as he is now "a rabid trinitarian," "a nondenominalist or pentecostal.

" also he's transdenominalist (associates with christians and others) not just those of one belief system.

i'm sure many of you also heard a lot of falsehoods put out about him.

mineralogist

So what? Does it change anything on the false teachings / practices of the WTS?

I'm sure he didn't intended to start a new religion with all the exJW

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100 Ways to Tell if You're a JW

by Pinned Blouse in

100 ways to tell if you're a jw author unknown .

source: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/christianexjehovahswitnesses messages 913 - 917001) if your reaction to someone wearing a cross is the same as a vampire's, you might be a jw.

002) if you think demons can reduce their size to fit in jewelry, furniture, books, or into blue smurfs, you might be a jw.

mineralogist

089) If the Bible makes a statement and the Watchtower says, "Logically, this cannot mean what it says" and you believe the Watchtower is correct, you might be a JW.

Unfortunately this is so true

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No New Book To Study WTF

by Poztate in

ok ...what am i missing here.

it seems to me every year that the dc was the place to bring out "new light?

" including a new and exciting book to sleep through study each and every week.

mineralogist

Draw close to Jehova is the book till mai (?) 2005 - half a chapter per week (about 10 paragraphs an hour).

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The Watchtower's Deceptive Quotations

by metatron in

frequently, the watchtower will quote church fathers to try to justify its cult-like version of christianity.

a typical.

example is a recent watchtower that cites tertullian as evidence that christians did not eat blood ( june 15, pg 29).. .

mineralogist

Thanks metatron,
that should clear the view about WT "authorities". If Tertullian is right at the one thing i should guess the other ideas also seems to be ok ... what a crap those WT writers do. The bad citations was a major point for leaving WTS for me.

Could you maybe provide the details of the current one about blood you mentioned?