I had worldly friends, but we were nerds so we were actually pretty good kids. I do wish that I'd been able to live a DL by exploring sex somewhat.
darkuncle29
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Did any of you ex JW's lead a double life? Any good stories?
by isnrblog ini did when i was a teenager.
i was a good little witness on the outside but a pot smoking, girl chasing, booze swilling....normal teenager.. funny story.
i was 17 and this elders wife started a study with a lady in our neighborhood.
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Growing a Beard: Reaction from JWs
by compound complex inhey there,.
how have jws reacted to a fellow member who decides to grow a beard?
i'm speaking of the brothers (unshaven).. thanks,.
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darkuncle29
I grew a goatee when my employer's dress code permitted it, as all the guys did at work for a while. IT was an unofficial competition. Due to my hair coloring, that's when I learned I'm a calico.
Also at this time, I told the ministry school scheduler to not give me any talks during the winter season as I was working alot of overtime. IT was getting irksome to me to have a talk every three weeks or so.
So I grew my partial beard and missed alot of meetings due to work. When winter was over, I went to meetings ocationally and kept the beard. I even have a family photo of us right after the memorial, me in a silver suit and beard. It was also at this time that I noticed that they stoped asking me to do mikes at meeting, and that made me happy. There were a small group of other young brothers that also grew some facial hair at this time. One was married, and his wife liked it so it stayed.
When we moved closer to work, I didn't go to the new hall much as I knew nobody there. That's where my fade unknowingly began.
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Will Smith is a Scientologist!?
by MsMcDucket inhow did i miss this?.
home > gossip > will smith > will smith's scientology campaignwill smith's scientology campaignjanuary 11 2008 -by bang showbiz upi.comwill smith is reportedly recruiting members for the church of scientology.
the 'i am legend' actor - whose wife jada pinkett-smith is a follower of the bizarre sci-fi cult - has reportedly been handing out cards offering free personality tests at scientology centres to cast and crew on his latest movie.
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darkuncle29
Well that's just sad. I thought he was smarter than that.
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Ok, so clearly, I can't keep my big, fat stinkin mouth shut even though...
by cognac ini've been warned.
i keep saying little things to my husband, and he clearly won't budge any more then he already has.
i just want him to see the truth.
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darkuncle29
I think this is really good:
Socratic method is great for this. Lead them to the answers, let them think they're figgering it out on their own.
I also liked what your idea was, to just assemble some researched information and let him go through it on his own. If presented in a matter of fact way, unbiased and unemotional, he can read and reread this all he wants. You have less risk of trigering his JW armor, and you don't engage with his ego.
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Ok, so clearly, I can't keep my big, fat stinkin mouth shut even though...
by cognac ini've been warned.
i keep saying little things to my husband, and he clearly won't budge any more then he already has.
i just want him to see the truth.
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darkuncle29
A word of caution: this...
If he he doesn't want to read it. Tell him you want to go to the elders and confess what you guys did before you got married.
That will gert his attendtion.
could be perceived by some as a betrayal of trust, its also blackmail (Damn formatting)
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As a Witness I Hated Personal Study- How About You ?
by flipper ini started a serious thread on cult mind control- so i figured i'd start a sarcastic funny thread, or serious, your choice how to explore it , on personal study !
i got so sick and tired as a witness with that expression being crammed down my throat !
" personal study " they told us !
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darkuncle29
I hated the forced structured study or prestudy of the watch tower or any of the 'study' books. I loved just reading through the Aid book or Insight books, just reading the history or looking at maps.
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Having a guilty conscience and maybe I should go back to JW
by hambeak ini have read the new wt and am thinking of going back.
i believe a lot of the teachings and i see what is going on .
i just feel a lot of confusion right now.
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darkuncle29
Call me silly, but to me it seems Hambeak is in more need of hugs or support than a bunch of brow beating with facts and 'how could you'.
Hambeak, in the end you do what you feel you have to do, but I would strongly encourage you to NOT go back. There is only pain there. Who do you have as a support structure outside of the Borg? Go and talk to these people, jsut be with them. See a therapist and tackle your guilt issues. Guilt can be useful to help us to change or empathise with others, but taken past that guilt is toxic and eats you up, at that point it is useless.
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Methods for Unlocking Cult Mind Control in Witnesses- By Steve Hassan
by flipper inhello my friends.
just wanted to share with you some of these main points in the chapter called " unlocking cult mind control" in steve hassan's book " combatting cult mind control" as i'm getting to the part in the book of putting into action how to help people , witnesses or any other mind controlled member of a cult to get out and escape to gain their freedom of thought back again.
so thought you might like it !
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darkuncle29
Hi guys, that is an interesting book to go through.
The last two trips I made to Wisconsin to visit relatives, I spoke with them about this book. I still don't think they 'got it'.
History: Back in the early 80's, when my mom first started studying with the JW's, her family and the Lutheran minister came down for an intervention. This backfired in a HUGE way, as they got emotional, argumentative, and verbally abusive. They pushed my mom off the precipise, where the JWs caught her and gave her all kinds of positive reinforcement.
So, my mom and her family had issues before all this, and because they just bulldozed there way in they made the situation worse. I was 7 at the time. I do remember this.
Now, 20+ years later I sorta forgive them, as they meant well, but as the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. They were not equiped emotionally or mentally to do an intervention on anybody. My family is now out of the JWs, but there is still alot fo old damage because of the way the extended family tried to force the issues.
So what I'm saying--so there's NO misunderstanding-- is that I think the ideas of Steven Hassan and how to help people in cults are very good, they should be cautiously approached by non professionals. Would you give a katana to an amateur to defend themselves? I would hope not, as a weapon of finesse if not used by someone trained to weild it can cause alot of damage to inocent bystanders.
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Embracing Yourself. Do You?
by prophecor inhave you ever met people who were so smart they were stupid?
i mean, really smart folk, but just.....not quite all there......i'm guilty of being an airhead.
it's not something i'm particularly proud of, but i've learned to own and embrace many of my shortcomings.
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darkuncle29
I try to every day. I set my standards for ME often too high, and get discouraged when I don't reach the mark. I very frequently don't feel good enough in many categories. I try hard to accept my limitations or faults without making that seem defeatist. Its a vicous circle.
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My kid comes home from the meeting worried about the devil. I'm not happy.
by jambon1 inthis was one of the many reasons that i left the org.
i just could not agree with some of the beliefs & ideas that kids are exposed to at the hall.
having not been raised in the org, i never had any idea what effect it all had on kids.
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darkuncle29
You could go the route of playing the Husband and spiritual head card, but I think they will just ignore that. They only follow their rules when it suits them.
Instead, I like the more subtle aproach. Take your kid out for icecream or something just the two of you, and very carefully bring the topic up. In a very non chalant way, just mention that "Daddy doesn't believe in blah blah devil.." The point is that you are going to delibratly and up front honestly tell your child that JW stuff is false, but in a way and level that the kid can understand.
He may then ask, why he has to go tho the meeting? Or why he has to go in service or whatever? You could say, just for a little while to make mommy happy, or you could say when he's old enough-say 8 or 10- he can make his own mind up about going to meeting. That could be risky as it sets a precedent however...
Another idea would be to get your kid involved in activites-scouting, sports, clubs, or you do things and go on outings. If you keep the kids busy, and let them have fun, they may naturaly see how boring the JW are.