child abuse, documentarys on watchtower cover-ups of child molestation, un scandal, disfellowshipping changes, flip-flop doctrines, loss of life due to refusing blood transfusions, disfellowshipping whistleblowers etc.. you name it, the watchtower has done it.. years ago, it was hard to hear anything bad about the society.
other than a few "disgruntled ones" (tm) most people (in and out the org) had little bad to say about the dubs.. now, it's only "bad all the time.
" everytime a news article on jw appears, it's usually bad.. it seems the only good media attention they get these days is coverage of their district conventions and the odd quickbuild.. have the attitudes of people changed towards jw's in your community?.
tend to agree with "justtickledPink"...mainstrean America is really not concerned with JWs, good or bad.
Lets face it...as Cults go the JW one is nothing more that a piece of dog shit on the bottom of your boot.
No one except JW's or EX JW's care about this little out of the way CULT...
hey, guys, i'm sorry if i did anything to offend you yesterday.
i havent had alcohol in over 14 years, but i was having a psychotic experience.
a bad case of ... (brummie dots) ... triggered it.. for a while there i thought i had found the true source of the unverse in ... (brummie dots) ... and i wanted to make sure all of mankind knew of ... (brummie dots) ... and that all they required to be worshipped was a little .
..........,,,,,,,,,,,,,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;::::::::::::::: SORRY !!!!!!
i hold in my hand a typical awake magazine (jan. 8, 2005) - entitled "can planet earth be.
saved?".
of course, it trots out the usual formula of half truths that has brought the watchtower.
I hold in my hand a typical Awake magazine (Jan. 8, 2005) - entitled "Can Planet Earth BeSaved?". Of course, it trots out the usual formula of half truths that has brought the Watchtower
What I find really annoying is the fact that they ALWAYS ask everything as a question.
If they are really god's org they would state that we believe the planet earth will be saved.
On the other hand the 6 billion people now on the face of the earth will perish since they didn't sign up.
What a bunch of crap...
yes, i tolerated a secret fault concerning blood.
i have never told anyone about it until this day.
now i am telling you.. as i recall, sometime in the 80's (or maybe late 70's) we were told to check our pet's food for animal by-products.
As I recall, sometime in the 80's (or maybe late 70's) we were told to check our pet's food for animal by-products. This was usually another way of saying animal blood.
Ah yes ...the good old days.I believe it was the late 1970's and paranoia was in full bloom. Fred Franz was in charge and many of his idea's got more weird as time went on.
In Canada we were warned that even flour MIGHT have blood put in it to "fortify"it and we better watch out eating at Mc Donalds because they might not bleed their meat properly. It was all to do with CONTROL and many dub's never questioned it
Another young couple took their dog to the vet who recommended a transfusion and they decided to put the dog to sleep because of their convictions. Makes you wonder what the dog would say if given a choice, a quick death now or a few more years of life with new blood.
The dog will get resurrected if he died faithful...won't he...
1 Corinthians 10:25) Everything that is sold in a meat market keep eating, making no inquiry on account of YOUR conscience; 1 Corinthians 10:25) Everything that is sold in a meat market keep eating, making no inquiry on account of YOUR conscience;BINGO !!!!
a good lesson for all:.
learn to put away all badness of this old world, and make the necessary changes to prepare for the kingdom of god.
pay back caesar's things to caesar, but god's things to god, especially god, because he owns all things, and will ask for an accounting from everyone.
Pay back Caesar's things to Caesar, but God's things to God, especially God, because He owns all things, and will ask for an accounting from everyone. Give free what you received free, as it is written.
I am confused.I would love to pay back Caesar's things to him but then you went on to state that god owns all things so who should I be paying these things back to.
I am not sure also who the superior authorities are...Is it the govt's or is is god and jesus??
Then you say I received everything free..so the way I look at it...piss on everybody.. it's mine!!
http://www.acampbell.org.uk/essays/skeptic/narrative.html
For some time now I have believed that religion is man's first failed attempt at science. When you look at it, its sole purpose is to explain things that cannot be immediately understood.
I think you hit the nail on the head with that one.Religious beliefs have had to constantly change as scientific knowledge shed light on a subject.
"the great disappointment" of the millerite movement.
in the preceding years, the self-proclaimed baptist preacher william miller had attracted as many as 100,000 followers in new york and massachusetts.
miller boldly predicted that christ would return and engulf the world in fire some time between march 21, 1843 and march 21, 1844. when that didn't happen, he changed the date to october 22. many followers left after that spectacular failure, but enough stayed to form the 7th day adventist movement.
When that didn't happen, he changed the date to October 22. Many followers left after that spectacular failure, but enough stayed to form the 7th Day Adventist movement.
Nothing has changed.What you teach can be total BS but there will always be some people that will latch on to it as "truth"
funny title you might think but consider this point and apologies if i am covering old ground here...its not intentional.. i was raised by my mother who was and is a devout jw and as such until i was 20 (10 years ago) i was the same...trying my best to fit into the social environment i clearly was not made for but benefiting from good wholesome association with fellow brothers and sisters (note the sarcastic tone...make what you will of it).. althought at the time i didnt realise it but i was what others consider intelligent and quite academically able; i had a mind like a sponge and would spend hours in the jw library at the kh (which surprisingly enough contained non jw literature)...it was this that i read and would digest endlessly where i could.. one of those books (why it was there i dont know), was what i later undertood to be criminal law reports concerning cases that had gone before the courts.
my childish thirst for knowledge was intrigued...(i was then about 12).
the legal arguments i hadnt a clue what they meant but the facts surrounding these crimes were good reading.. i then knew i wanted to be a lawyer and that was what i said when an elder asked me what i wanted to do when i grew up; i mentioned trusting this man that i had read a book in the kh library and found it interesting...and that i wanted to be lawyer...i remember him smiling and saying that it was better to pioneer rather than seek a highly paid job...personally i didnt know what he meant properly but i felt a bit sad...and demotivated...i later in the week went back into the library and found the book had gone...!!.
"God has chosen the stupid people of the world to be his servants."
Walter....I'm lazy...do I have to research or can you quote book and verse.
Poz.
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after doing battle with the sellotape and tearing my lip (oh the dangers of xmas present wrapping) and staying up late to pack, i'm finally heading on my way towards seattle.... catch some of you guys sooner rather than later.. be good, now .
After doing battle with the Sellotape and tearing my lip (oh the dangers of Xmas present wrapping) and staying up late to pack, I'm finally heading on my way towards Seattle...
Oh how I envy you.You get to leave a spot that is cold and rainy to go to a spot that is ...cold and rainy..
Hope you enjoy your trip.
along with some other companies, this jw that runs lifeline, david kelsey, had his picture in the newspaper.
he was accepting $500 from a charity that provides money at this time of year, the heading was, "the season of goodwill".
you hypocritical pig.
Now, whenever I see the Salvation Army ringing their donations bell, I make sure I give whatever change or dollar bills I have on me.
Made my first donation to the "Sally Ann" food bank this year. Damm... it feel good just to help those needing it without looking over your shoulder to see if an elder was looking on and taking note.
