hi everyone, i'm new here, i've been following the rc reports, and i was hoping you could help, my question is are jw allowed to be police, i heard the jws saying in one report with enthusiasm that they had jw in the policeforce.
and would there be any conflict from the force with any of their teaching, that would be contrary to duties..
It was Spinks who claimed that JWs were on the police force. He said that JWs were in "every level of the police force" in Australia.
I don't believe Spinks - he is a liar.
I cannot imagine that "every level" of the police force has JWs in it. Impossible. Unless, of course, by "every level" he meant that the JWs had the cleaning contract for every floor in the police building.
The jwgift website in the UK has been around for quite some time now.
A thread from 11 years ago:
the royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .
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www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
TheMark: I think the commission will go easy on him to save face, Jackson's especially.
Oh. Are you, by chance, American?
The Royal Commission in Australia has no need to "save face". Their face is doing just fine.
Losing face would be the scenario you describe.
the royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .
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www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
TheMark: I'll be back Friday to apologize if I was wrong.
But, what about your accusation of bribes being accepted by the Royal Commission? What about an apology for that? That is a very strong accusation that has nothing to do with pessimism - it is a slanderous statement.
this is a youtube uploaded in 2009 that has a talk about the governing body given to jws.. "governing body".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwjm5d9m1lm&index=5&list=pl2vkk1cclbi8xcdxgygijzu9_w6nzx8mt.
the speaker tells the jws that the gb takes such good responsible care of all of them.. the speaker also speaks of a personal experience with bro.
Yes, the speaker's style is pretty slick. Hypnotic. An appeal to the emotions, for sure.
He keeps emphasizing how the GB "are responsible for you". And, he uses the terms Governing Body and Faithful and Discete Slave interchangably.
Any JW listening to this talk would come away with the idea that the GB are the ones in charge - regardless of whether that is true in practice - the message is what counts. It is the belief that the GB calls the shots that is important to the JWs themselves.
And, the JWs are being told that the GB will look after them - that the GB will take responsibilty for each and every one of the JWs.
Well, we shall see if that holds true or not after Jackson appears this week for the Royal Commission.
what question would you ask geoffrey jackson, as a member of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, to answer?
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jw leaks.
I hope that the Royal Commission gets into how the WTS itself is actually organized and structured. It would be great if Jackson revealed who the members of the WTS really are, if the WTS is made up of only JWs, and how a person gets included into the WT Society itself as a member. Who are the 300-500 men who make up the Watchtower Society? What powers do they have?
Jackson should also be asked if the membership of the Society has the power to overturn the GB's decisions.
The distinction between the JW r&f and the JWs who actually have membership in the Watchtower Society itself, has yet to be addressed by the Commission.
the royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .
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www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
TheMark: The WT will come out smelling like roses as the prosecution accepts the bribes.
That is a strong accusation. And one that the Royal Commission does not deserve levied against it.
There has been no indication of bribes or corruption on the part of the RC to this point and accusations of such are unfounded.
why won't they (the wbt$ head honchos), simply change policy on sex offenders?
will they?..especially after the arc for eg?
it seems that with all the bad press and now the arc among other institutions that are exposing the wbt$ for a haven for paedophiles, why hasn't the wbt$ simply changed it's insane policy?.
marvin: The documents released to the Royal Commission has a change. Now elders are instructed to tell parents that so-and-so is a "predator" and for that reason they should not let their children associate with the individual.
But does not the WTS retain the right to determine who is a "predator" or not? Do they not say that not everyone who is a child sex abuser is a "predator"?
I question the WTS' ability or capacity to determine who is a predator or not.
why won't they (the wbt$ head honchos), simply change policy on sex offenders?
will they?..especially after the arc for eg?
it seems that with all the bad press and now the arc among other institutions that are exposing the wbt$ for a haven for paedophiles, why hasn't the wbt$ simply changed it's insane policy?.
punk: I just wonder if it's only we ex-JJWs that are interested in the ARC though.
It may seem like that, at least in the public eye.
However, I am pretty confident that organizations like the Catholic Church are keeping a close eye on these proceedings. What happens with these hearings will impact other organizations besides the JWs. Not only that, but "worldy" people in the legal profession will be watching closely.
Give it time. The results of this hearing may have global impact yet. The WTS is, after all, a global organization. And, with the availiblity of information so easily accessible, things can move quite rapidly in our cyber based world. It isn't 1918 anymore where court transcripts and such take so long to get into the public domain - it happens instantly now.
