Posts by backformore

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Even if everything about the "truth" was all true...........

by pontoon in

i will say that one of the most distasteful teachings for me is the idea of praising, thanking, worshiping, god every day for all eternity.

what kind of ego needs that?

like if i ever saved a person's life i would say buy me a bottle of scotch and we'll call it even.

backformore

I have saved lives. I was told good job by coworkers and got a paycheck which was good enough for me.

\nurse

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Being the oldest sucked

by backformore in

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back when i was a jw i was born in.

also, in the congregatin i was in from middle school to when i left at 20, with the exception of one guy nobody really talked to except me, i was the oldest of the "young people.

the girls were pretty sperate.

Oh yeah, somehow forgot about the other elder's daughter who had to go to the ER beause those pills that she though were speed turned out to be laxatives. Same girl didnt even get in trouble after her ex boyfriend from school sent her parents a copy of the video tape of them having sex.

Also, I know all of this stuff not from gossip or anything like that. I was either there when stuff happened or was told by the people involved what happened. I was a popular person to talk to because everyone knew I was the only person who would keep their secrets. Not any more!

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Being the oldest sucked

by backformore in

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back when i was a jw i was born in.

also, in the congregatin i was in from middle school to when i left at 20, with the exception of one guy nobody really talked to except me, i was the oldest of the "young people.

the girls were pretty sperate.

backformore

Back when I was a JW I was born in. Also, in the congregatin I was in from middle school to when I left at 20, with the exception of one guy nobody really talked to except me, I was the oldest of the "young people." Well, amongst he guys anyway. The girls were pretty sperate. Somehow, to just about everyone in my congregation, that made me the leader of our little group. To make matters even worse, all the guys in congregation all had big mouths. I didn't and never ratted anyone else out, ever. Since I was the oldest and assumed leader with a bunch of loud mouths friends, I got in trouble for all kinds of stuff. One thing that really got me is that out of all of my meetings with elders in the back room, not once did they ever ask me whe I learned any of the stuff that I did.

I stole a cassette tape from a store once when one of the guys was with me and I'm in the backroom hearing how evil I am and what a horrible example I set. Got my microphone "privileges" taken away for that one. What I founinteresting was before that L and S (not their real initials) got arrested for stealing video games from Best Buy but nobody ever heard anything about that which was really surprising since L had just gotten baptized a couple weeks before his arrest. Hey, L was the one that taught me how to steal. while they were fun to hang out with I hated to go out in service with them because they were usually so hung over I always had to talk but nobody ever caught onto that. K and E got arrested for breaking into cars and stealing stuff but that was hushed up pretty effectively too. I bring a girl from school over to a buddy's place after school and we all just hang out for a while. That got me in the back room with the elders again and word spreads everywhere about that. D gets a blowjob in the living room at a party over at the same guy's house with lots of other JW's there and nothing happens to him at all. I'm dating a girl from school and if my own kids were doing the stuff that we did, I'd be perfectly fine with it. I got a local needs talk for that one and multiple elder visits over it. The only thing that got them to back off was when the main elder who was after me had his 17 year old daughter announce the week after her big giant JW high school graduation party where everyone showered her with gifts that she was quitting the JW's to move in with the 36 year old manager of the McDonalds she worked at and had been getting it on with for months. Her younger sister ended up working at a porn shop too but i was out so dont know if she got into any trouble for that. I ran into an elder when I was leaving a convenience store with a box of Junior Mints in my hand. I get a very concerned phone call the next day from that elder becue he thought I was carrying a pack of smokes and wanted to talk to me about it before bringing it to the rest of the elders because of the seriousness of what I was doing. I thought that was strange since nobody said anything to P about him smoking outside our hotel when we were at the convention the previous summer. Maybe they just didnt want to touch that because he was also loudly talking about this girl at school he was screwing at the time.

The really fun thing is that all but one of those people look down on me because, while I may be a nurse who works to keep people alive everyday, I'm no longer a JW. And to think, I have family members who just can't understand why I have no desire to come back!

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Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

by Mr Negative in

my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

is this true?

backformore

Nope, no osteopathy here. Just plain old medicine at Jewish, Baptist, Catholic, and totally secular hospitals, all of which treated blood transfusions like the good things that they are. JW's and their anti blood beliefs were mentioned multiple times in lectures and each time it was "these people are nuts but you have to respect their views and treat aaccordingly."

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Would YOU Have Refused Blood To Remain Faithful To Your JW Beliefs?

by minimus in

i believe that most witnesses would refuse blood to show their faithfulness to jehovah's law on blood transfusions....( that sounds silly, huh?).

.

backformore

No. You know why? Back when I was 16 my beloved cousin who was a fairly good JW came down with leukemia. You wanna know one of the first big cracks in my faith? Talking to my cousin who I loved like a brother and him telling me how as much as he loves Jehovah, he was scared and didn't want to die.

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Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

by Mr Negative in

my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

is this true?

backformore

I just finished nursing school where I got to take part in many surgeries and talk to many many doctors and surgeons. When it comes to the idea of refusing blood transfusions they universally think that idea, and especially the people who promote it, is nuts and would have no problem accepting a transfusion if they ever needed it.

Alice In Chains

by backformore in

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so, i remember back in the 90's reading the watchtower or awake and they specifically mentioned alice in chains for being an "evil" band because of their name.

anyone else remember that?

any idea which issue it was in?.

backformore

So, I remember back in the 90's reading the Watchtower or Awake and they specifically mentioned Alice In Chains for being an "evil" band because of their name. Anyone else remember that? Any idea which issue it was in?

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Failure

by backformore in

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so tonight just sucks ad i just want to vent to people who don't know me irl.. my wife and i have two kids.

i was still in when we got together but my wife never was.

when we actually got married i moved out of my parents place and never went back to a kingdom hall again.

backformore

So tonight just sucks ad I just want to vent to people who don't know me IRL.

my wife and I have two kids. I was still in when we got together but my wife never was. When we actually got married I moved out of my parents place and never went back to a Kingdom Hall again. Sure, we were young but that was over 15 years ago and looking back, I'd still do it again in a heart beat. The problem is kids. When we first got married I didn't want any, at least not for a long time. Well, infrequent birth control and later switching from one type to another we had two kids. i didnt really want them at the time because of all my baggage but over time I came to really love being a dad but there were still a few problems though. The first of which was after my wife got her boy and girl she was happy to go along with my bright idea that she should get her tubes tied. The second is that when my kids were really little I was happy to work like crazy to pay the bills and let my wife worry about taking care of the babies. In hindsight, I feel like I really missed out on all the fun stuff that comes with having a little baby.

so, all that being said, we decided that it would be great to have another baby. In vitro was out because of all the hormonal stuff my wife would have to take and the fear of what that would do to her body since she had breast cancer a fears back. She could get her tubes untied but that costs a LOT of money and still has its own set of problems. As stupid as it sounds, I still had my own issues of having another kid with my DNA combined with the thought of all the kids out there that don't have a loving family made adoption seem really attractive to us. Hey, we had adopted a dog and she blended into our family just great so a kid would too right? We could bring someone into our family that doesn't have my DNA as well as provide a warm and loving home to someone who didn't have one. Sounds great! As it returns out there was a a young woman my wife worked with who was pregnant, very financially unstable, and the dad really wanted to give the baby up. She was actually looking into adoption already so we approached said and said we would like to adopt her baby. Things were looking really bright talking to her, our kids were excited about having a little sister, my wife and I were ecstatic at the thought, and baby momma liked the idea of someone she knew adopting her baby. As time went on she said she was really starting to feel attached to the baby though. We told her its fine if she kept it and we totally understood.

Last night we get a message that she is in labor. Today we find out she had her baby and will be keeping her. She did send a picture of the baby girl and she's adorable and absolutely beautiful. The only problem is she isn't ours. While we are happy for my wife's friend, it just sucks for us. This really sucks. It really really sucks And I have no idea where we go from here.

If my wife gets her tubes untied it will be at LEAST another year before we could have it done and have a baby and that is if everything goes just perfectly. We are already older than our parents were when they had us and we thought they were old to be parents as we were growing up. Thats the best case scenerio with getting her tubes untied. I don't know if I could take the stress and emotional drainage that goes with adoption again. Seriously, I grew up a JW and left in flames, I have been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, celiac disease, and renal failure. My wife had breast cancer at 30. I did a midlife complete career change. All of that and adoption is by for the most stressful thing I've ever done. If we go the invitro rout my wife would have to take all kinds of hormonal drugs. She had cancer a few years ago and while the doctors are pretty sure they got rid of all of it, you can never be totally sure and the drugs she would have to take would act like a food festival for the type of cancer she had. However, we do nothing and I spend the rest of my life feeling like I have lost out on really caring for my own child. Also, my wife has really gotten baby fever the past few months too. I hate to deny her another child too. It's like we are just presented with a bunch of really bad options about something that should be so great and have to choose one.

This just sucks!

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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE

by LennaB in

meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.

(astrology, racism, ect.

) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.

backformore

The bright side is you are getting out when you're still young. Think of all the people that have wasted their entire lives in this cult. You are way better off than them. Not only that but your friends are just wrong. They may not see it and may never see it but they are and YOU know it. Just because other people think something that you know is wrong, does that mean you want to be wrong too?

If nothing else, one thing that I gained in abundance when I left was self confidence. I was born and raised a JW. I was around it my entire life and was quite the good little JW too until I began to see through all the lies. I stood my ground and left just because I listened to myself and trusted me more than others and you know what? I was right! If I could do that, there's nothing I can't do if I work at it. it's like you are passing through a fire right now. Letit burn all the unnecessary waste around you off and get rid of the stuff that is wrong and wasting your time and emotions. Also, use that fire to shape yourself into something sharp and strong. You do that and nothing will stand in your way.

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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE

by LennaB in

meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.

(astrology, racism, ect.

) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.

backformore

Your life isn't ruined Lenna. Sure, it s messed up but not ruined. There are plenty of people here who have screwed up way worse than you have (self included) and have been able to rebuild into something pretty awesome (again, self included). Just hag in there, take it one day at a time, and do wat is right for YOU.