The last elder that "popped by" was told by me to his face that the organization is made up of mostly assholes...
He kinda chuckled and didn't pursue the subject!!
i wonder what the report to the branch would say.. he said " me, you and the wt organization is full of poop".. do we df him?
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The last elder that "popped by" was told by me to his face that the organization is made up of mostly assholes...
He kinda chuckled and didn't pursue the subject!!
Thanks for posting even if it was painful.
Quite a bit of good advice here.
I think looking at this as respectful and patiently may be the hardest, yet may yield the best results.
Don't stop her from attending, yet do not give your approval that this is somehow good.
Nothing has changed in the ORG except more videos for them to watch.
I don't think her return will stick if she has also seen behind the curtain. ( She knows things )
Listening to fake explanations and lies gets old if you know what they are.
Keep us updated and try to remain calm.
this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.
start the count here with my wife and i.
I really thought having kids in the new world would be the way to go...
I'm approaching 50 years old.
Another oops.
for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.
follow isaac's story here:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.
This should be great!
Thanks
i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
I'm really enjoying the experience.
Welcome.
Do you have other JW relatives or close friends you are struggling to keep?
the following would enhance searches:.
- searching "by topic" or "by post" .
- being able to sort results by date, replies, etc., same as one can do now with "subject area".
I am still unable to use the search feature.
Had no problems with the previous version of board software.
Now, whenever I go to enter my search ( click into window ) it resets with no search.
sorry if this has been covered, i am not able to access the search function since the new site version.. the topic:when did jws start observing instead of partaking?.
i'm embarrassed to admit i don't know this.. i would guess in the early 30's when the little flock/great crowd/we're jw's doctrines were implemented.. please include references to the publications in your answers!.
( did that sound like a desperate plea for comments on the service meeting?
sorry if this has been covered, i am not able to access the search function since the new site version.. the topic:when did jws start observing instead of partaking?.
i'm embarrassed to admit i don't know this.. i would guess in the early 30's when the little flock/great crowd/we're jw's doctrines were implemented.. please include references to the publications in your answers!.
( did that sound like a desperate plea for comments on the service meeting?
Sorry if this has been covered, I am not able to access the search function since the new site version.
The Topic:
When did JWs start observing instead of partaking?
I'm embarrassed to admit I don't know this.
I would guess in the early 30's when the little flock/great crowd/we're JW's doctrines were implemented.
Please include references to the publications in your answers!
( did that sound like a desperate plea for comments on the service meeting? I hope so... )
there seem to be many prerequisites for life as we know it.. to name a few: order, function, compatibility, availability, sustainability, intelligence, consciousness, intuition and so on.. focusing on only one, namely order.. what are the chances of order arising spontaneously, by chance, with no creator/designer?.
i have often pondered this and recently came across a mathematical summary of the big picture:.
if every particle in the known physical universe (10^80 particles), participated in one trillion interactions (10^12 interactions) per second, for the entire 30 billion years of the universe's existence (10^18 seconds), then we would by now have covered only 10^110 permutations.. if you had only 100 components in a container, what are the chances that a blindfolded person could lay them out in order on a table?.
I thought the answer was in the book:
LIFE- How did it get here?
By evolution or creation?
Pg. 44 pp18:
The proteins needed for life have very complex molecules. What is the chance of even a simple protein molecule forming at random in an organic soup? Evolutionists acknowledge it to be only one in 10¹¹³ (1 followed by 113 zeros). But any event that has one chance in just 10^50 is dismissed by mathematicians as never happening. An idea of the odds, or probability, involved is seen in the fact that the number 10¹¹³ is larger than the estimated total number of all the atoms in the universe