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  How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.

  start the count here with my wife and i.

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  kairos

  I really thought having kids in the new world would be the way to go...

  I'm approaching 50 years old.
  Another oops.
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  Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

  follow isaac's story here:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.

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  kairos

  This should be great!

  Thanks
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  Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

  by Stumpy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

  you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

  what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

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  kairos

  I'm really enjoying the experience.

  Welcome.

  Do you have other JW relatives or close friends you are struggling to keep?
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  Search Enhancements

  by berrygerry in

  1. forum
  2. suggestions

  the following would enhance searches:.

  - searching "by topic" or "by post" .

  - being able to sort results by date, replies, etc., same as one can do now with "subject area".

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  kairos

  I am still unable to use the search feature.
  Had no problems with the previous version of board software.

  
  

  Now, whenever I go to enter my search ( click into window ) it resets with no search.
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  Fill in the blanks on JW Memorial history

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry if this has been covered, i am not able to access the search function since the new site version.. the topic:when did jws start observing instead of partaking?.

  i'm embarrassed to admit i don't know this.. i would guess in the early 30's when the little flock/great crowd/we're jw's doctrines were implemented.. please include references to the publications in your answers!.

  ( did that sound like a desperate plea for comments on the service meeting?

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  kairos

  Yes, of course, just trying to wrap my head around the history that I chose to ignore for 25 years...
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  Fill in the blanks on JW Memorial history

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry if this has been covered, i am not able to access the search function since the new site version.. the topic:when did jws start observing instead of partaking?.

  i'm embarrassed to admit i don't know this.. i would guess in the early 30's when the little flock/great crowd/we're jw's doctrines were implemented.. please include references to the publications in your answers!.

  ( did that sound like a desperate plea for comments on the service meeting?

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  kairos

  Sorry if this has been covered, I am not able to access the search function since the new site version.

  The Topic:
  When did JWs start observing instead of partaking?

  I'm embarrassed to admit I don't know this.

  I would guess in the early 30's when the little flock/great crowd/we're JW's doctrines were implemented.

  Please include references to the publications in your answers!

  ( did that sound like a desperate plea for comments on the service meeting? I hope so... )
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  The mathematical probability of spontaneous order (no designer/creator)

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there seem to be many prerequisites for life as we know it.. to name a few: order, function, compatibility, availability, sustainability, intelligence, consciousness, intuition and so on.. focusing on only one, namely order.. what are the chances of order arising spontaneously, by chance, with no creator/designer?.

  i have often pondered this and recently came across a mathematical summary of the big picture:.

  if every particle in the known physical universe (10^80 particles), participated in one trillion interactions (10^12 interactions) per second, for the entire 30 billion years of the universe's existence (10^18 seconds), then we would by now have covered only 10^110 permutations.. if you had only 100 components in a container, what are the chances that a blindfolded person could lay them out in order on a table?.

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  kairos

  I thought the answer was in the book:

  LIFE- How did it get here?
  By evolution or creation?

  Pg. 44 pp18:

  The proteins needed for life have very complex molecules. What is the chance of even a simple protein molecule forming at random in an organic soup? Evolutionists acknowledge it to be only one in 10¹¹³ (1 followed by 113 zeros). But any event that has one chance in just 10^50 is dismissed by mathematicians as never happening. An idea of the odds, or probability, involved is seen in the fact that the number 10¹¹³ is larger than the estimated total number of all the atoms in the universe

  
  
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  Supernatural Tony......the 3rd

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i realised something today.... we all happily accepted something really ridiculous.....something that if worded how i will word it now, we would have rejected as ridiculous, but after a moments thought, would have to concede.. we once followed the governing body because we believed they had supernatural powers.

  how ridiculous you may say, no we didn't!

  of or relating to things that cannot be explained according to natural laws.

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  kairos

  Thanks for the topic.

  Getting people to think is step one.
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  Help! I'm drowning!

  by vinman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.

  i've been faking family worship.

  i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.

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  kairos

  I can't see attending the meetings for any reason.

  I tried. After a few times of literally walking out in tears during the concluding prayer, I called it quits for good.

  Go at your pace. Seems to be different for everyone.
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  Watchtower: You Made us Apostates!!

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you are willing to pay attention to the org's history and do any kind of unbiased personal research, it's impossible to miss ttatt.. watchtower's publication archive provides all the information anyone would ever need.where are all of the "half truths and outright lies" actually coming from?

  ( old light ).

  why, oh why, back in 1989 when i first got hooked did i not do any research into the watchtower corporation?.

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  kairos

  If you are willing to pay attention to the org's history and do any kind of unbiased personal research, it's impossible to miss TTATT.

  Watchtower's publication archive provides all the information anyone would ever need.
  Where are all of the "half truths and outright lies" actually coming from? ( old light )

  Why, oh why, back in 1989 when I first got hooked did I not do any research into the Watchtower corporation?

  If you aren't sure what to do, ask yourself:
  Why would Jehovah give information to HIS chosen people that would need constant changes, refinements and radical modifications, if he only dispenses truth?

  When we clearly see that the WTBTS has been making changes after failed prophecies for it's entire history, we'll then notice it's the Watchtower that made us apostates.