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sowhatnow
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JWs - A View From Outside
by Joe Grundy ini never was a jw (i make this point in - almost - every post) but having been brought up ('raised' for our us cousins) in a non-conformist fundy sect with 'rapture' aspirations, it wasn't that different.. i still have extended family members in it, or in that mindset, but we rarely discuss religion.
in particular, my sister and bil lost their son (my nephew) some years ago when he was just 13. their comfort is that he is in a 'better place' and i don't want to challenge that to them.. i keep up with all things jw here in this forum and maintain my academic interest and these are just my thoughts as an outsider, for what they are worth.. ime, those people who have heard of jws tend to lump them in with mormons and other crazies and have no knowledge or interest in them - other than to warn neighbours when they are about.. where i live should be prime 'witnessing' territory but they rarely come round, even in the recent leafletting campaign.
they are not as effective as the people who regularly call with the latest menus from the local curry/chinese/kebab houses.. on the occasions when jws have called, despite invitations to come in and have a cup of tea, etc., none has ever wanted to engage in conversation, far less progress to an invitation to a kh meeting or start a bible study (and i always present myself as an 'imterested householder').. my conversations with people in general and friends in the real world lead me to conclude that few people have heard of jws, those that have regard them as a minor irrevelant nuisance and that there is no interest in their message or beliefs.. a few months ago i did a 'drive-past' of the million pound seafront property in bangor, north wales that wt recently bought for use as a 'translation office' (ha ha!).
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does God read our minds, or should we pray out loud?
by sowhatnow ini always wondered, can god read our thoughts?
if he can then why cant satan?.
i was told by my mother that god can read our minds, but satan cant satan can only hear our words and see our motives and what we do,.
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sowhatnow
so Im off the hook?
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Lowering the standards: The sign of a cult struggling for survival
by Hidden-Window inmany of the recent changes in the jehovah's witness organization are a clear sign of a cult that is struggling for survival.
the internet has change the scenario in a very dramatic way.
many of us who for years struggled alone with doubts and cognitive dissonance thinking that we were the only ones, that we, as individuals were the issue, now know that there is a large community of individuals who see the organization as what it is, a mind controlling cult that is not only false, but also dangerous.. the governing body clearly understands the consequences of this awakening.
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sowhatnow
when they do away with disfellowshipping, THEN we will know they are on a sinking ship
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theres going to be an explosion of under 23 yr old newly weds
by sowhatnow inin order to not be subject to such a foolish idea that guys should be a ministerial servant by the time they are 23, [which is entirely not up to them btw].
even though jesus wasnt even baptized till he was 30 and he was way more knowledgeble, .
[god i wish i could spell check on here] were going to have a whole lot of young people getting married before the guy turns 23 i suppose.. or a lot more 'worldy' people getting jw mates.. because using my logic, which is usually questionalble, lol, id be the girl who would hury and date someone right out of high school.
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sowhatnow
so gee, do the stats show that to be a ms has no bearing on a sucessful marraige? or the fact that jws are so limited in thier selection that its most likely Not going to work out very well
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My Yoke is Kindly and My load is Light! What did this scripture mean to you as a JW?
by BU2B injesus said that "my yoke is kindly and my load is light" what did this scripture mean to you when you were mentally in?
did you feel the jw load was kindly and light?
if not, what was the point in him uttering those words?
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sowhatnow
i wondered why it wasnt being applied
and wondered what light load he was refering to , because i did not see any jw with a light load.
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theres going to be an explosion of under 23 yr old newly weds
by sowhatnow inin order to not be subject to such a foolish idea that guys should be a ministerial servant by the time they are 23, [which is entirely not up to them btw].
even though jesus wasnt even baptized till he was 30 and he was way more knowledgeble, .
[god i wish i could spell check on here] were going to have a whole lot of young people getting married before the guy turns 23 i suppose.. or a lot more 'worldy' people getting jw mates.. because using my logic, which is usually questionalble, lol, id be the girl who would hury and date someone right out of high school.
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sowhatnow
true
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which is a better attitude: I can't respect it, but I understand it or I cant understand it , but I will respect it?
by MissFit inso is it possible to understand a reason and not respect it?
shouldn't understanding lead to a respect of the reasons and actions?.
or can you respect the reasons and actions without understanding them?.
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sowhatnow
on another note, if they never get married they can never be accused of adultry.
sex between two concenting adults who love each other, and hurts no one. to me in not a sin.
plus, we are not under the law of moses.
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Armageddon will be here in less than 4 years!
by hoser inthat's the word according to my mil.
mrs hoser is starting a new career and the college and work training will take her four years to complete.
her mom is giving her a hard time telling her that the system will be over before she graduates.
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sowhatnow
Thank god, Im getting tired of being bored to death
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theres going to be an explosion of under 23 yr old newly weds
by sowhatnow inin order to not be subject to such a foolish idea that guys should be a ministerial servant by the time they are 23, [which is entirely not up to them btw].
even though jesus wasnt even baptized till he was 30 and he was way more knowledgeble, .
[god i wish i could spell check on here] were going to have a whole lot of young people getting married before the guy turns 23 i suppose.. or a lot more 'worldy' people getting jw mates.. because using my logic, which is usually questionalble, lol, id be the girl who would hury and date someone right out of high school.
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sowhatnow
in order to not be subject to such a foolish idea that guys should be a ministerial servant by the time they are 23, [which is entirely not up to them btw]
even though JESUS wasnt even BAPTIZED till he was 30 and he was WAY more knowledgeble,
[god i wish i could spell check on here] were going to have a whole lot of young people getting married before the guy turns 23 i suppose.
or a lot more 'worldy' people getting jw mates.
because using my logic, which is usually questionalble, lol, id be the girl who would hury and date someone right out of high school
so i can be married before the suggested 'cut off date', then as an annoying wife,
i can maybe nag my new man on how hes got to be a ministerial servant, and preside fine over his household. wow what a crazy statement this man made.
where does that leave all the brothers who are not in a position to be one? or the newly interested ones? [ pray for them ]
I wonder what the conversation was on the way home in the cars of so many of theses young people!
AND THEY WONDER WHY THERE IS A LACK OF INTREST FROM THE YOUNG ADULTS???
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does God read our minds, or should we pray out loud?
by sowhatnow ini always wondered, can god read our thoughts?
if he can then why cant satan?.
i was told by my mother that god can read our minds, but satan cant satan can only hear our words and see our motives and what we do,.
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sowhatnow
I always wondered, can God read our thoughts? if he can then why cant satan?
i was told by my mother that God can read our minds, but satan cant satan can only hear our words and see our motives and what we do,
[as can God]
yet the odd thing is, when Id watch a show, like I shouldnt be alive, or sone news show, the people that prayed To God said they cried it out loud and then the y were miraculously rescued. even people who never prayed before.
so, should we be praying out loud?
the bible actually says little about prayer, accept that I see that jesus told us to go into our room and pray in secret, he 'went away'
to pray, and condemed those who prayed in public. no where does it say we should get on our knees, or look to the sky, or take on any form,
or even pray for every meal with our family.
so all public prayers as far as I m concerned are improper. especially those convention prayers that last 10 minuets.
and on a side note, how do we now pray? to Jesus or God? clearly jehovah is not Gods real intended name,