Posts by LoveUniHateExams

Er, no, Lloyd, just because people leave the WTS they still have morals, concepts of decent vs unacceptable behaviour. Ditto atheists - they don't believe God exists but they still have morals, too.

And cheating on your wife with prostitutes (some of whom may be forced into sex work or are under age) is totally incompatible with being an activist who criticises the Watchtower's child abuse policies.

Lloyd's dramatic loss of patreons is evidence for the fact that he's completely misjudged how ex-JWs/atheists feel and think.

It's hilarious watching him in a hole of his own making, digging down further and further.

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Am I at the right place?

by AnotherJohn in

i’m still a good christian.

i still believe the bible.. i don’t like the wt society, but some of the people, as individuals are good.

there are many nasty jws also.. i have concerns about current events and how close the end actually is.

LoveUniHateExams

Welcome to the forum.

Also no or none? They found Jericho - yes, but this doesn't mean Jericho's walls were flattened by God-magic, lol.

PS

People are free to have religious beliefs but those beliefs aren't exempted from rational inquiry.

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Does the WTS have a clergy class

by blondie in

jw
friends

this can be confusing because the wts has adjusted from not having a clergy class to not having a "paid" clergy class.. "a congregation of brothers precludes having a proud clergy class that honors itself with high-sounding titles and elevates itself above a laity" wt 6/1/2001 p. 12, pp 11. still same idea in 2021 wt october, p. 20, pp.

7, but 2022 in the wt publication, frequently asked questions about jehovah’s witnesses, page 13, the wts inserts "paid" in front of "clergy perhaps to shore up their current statement in secular courts they have clergy, just not paid) "following the model of first-century christianity, jehovah’s witnesses have no clergy-laity division.

all baptized witnesses are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work.

LoveUniHateExams

@Ozzie - they may have changed it since I left.

I left in 2006.

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Does the WTS have a clergy class

by blondie in

jw
friends

this can be confusing because the wts has adjusted from not having a clergy class to not having a "paid" clergy class.. "a congregation of brothers precludes having a proud clergy class that honors itself with high-sounding titles and elevates itself above a laity" wt 6/1/2001 p. 12, pp 11. still same idea in 2021 wt october, p. 20, pp.

7, but 2022 in the wt publication, frequently asked questions about jehovah’s witnesses, page 13, the wts inserts "paid" in front of "clergy perhaps to shore up their current statement in secular courts they have clergy, just not paid) "following the model of first-century christianity, jehovah’s witnesses have no clergy-laity division.

all baptized witnesses are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work.

LoveUniHateExams

Remember when you were first coming into 'the truth'? It was all, we are all brothers and our leader is Jesus.

Turns out this is all bullshit.

The WTS has a strict hierarchy, a bit like the Catholic Church ...

Governing Body

Bethel Elders

District Overseers

Circuit Overseers

Local Elders

Ministerial Servants

Male Publishers

Female Publishers

Children

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

LoveUniHateExams

'Kim Silvio's ongoing defamation campaign against me ...'

^^^ I like the way Lloyd is trying to guess Kim's motives here.

As far as I can make out, Kim Silvio is just telling the truth and/or correcting certain things she believes to be false.

She's not trying to defame Lloyd.

His doing that with his own actions, lol.

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How Murderers In the Congregation are handled

by blondie in

jw
friends

i don't have the link but i am trying to post this, this is from a previous post on jwn.

watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. dear brothers:.. we received your letter of december 17 in which you inquire about handling a situation involving a brother who has been guilty of serious violation of the law in the past.. you explained that you received information indicating that this brother ?committed several murders and crimes before his baptism.

you ask if law obligates some action on our part.

LoveUniHateExams

Absolutely, truth_be_known

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How Murderers In the Congregation are handled

by blondie in

jw
friends

i don't have the link but i am trying to post this, this is from a previous post on jwn.

watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. dear brothers:.. we received your letter of december 17 in which you inquire about handling a situation involving a brother who has been guilty of serious violation of the law in the past.. you explained that you received information indicating that this brother ?committed several murders and crimes before his baptism.

you ask if law obligates some action on our part.

LoveUniHateExams

it is imperative that the elders maintain strict confidentiality about his past - <--- this is the worrying part.

People need to be protected from murderers, sex offenders, etc.