cappytan Your experience is somewhat similar of that of mine. After noticing that the Watchtower Society is a deceptive organization, which tends to minimize its serious errors, I still believed that Jehovah was God and Jesus was our Savior. But after appliying a critical analysis to the Old and New Testament, I had to admit that Yahweh can't be God. The books of the Old Testament have many contradictions and moral problems, which show that there was no coherent god inspiring them. A loving god can't order you to kill infants (read 1 Samuel 15:1-5). A loving god can't promote revenge (read Numbers 31:1-2). A genuine god can't proclaim false prophecies (Ezekiel 29:12). This is why I don't believe that the Bible can provide us a trustworthy guide.
opusdei1972
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Losing Faith
by cappytan ini've always been a "spiritual" person.
i've been an avid bible reader since as early as i can remember.
i read the bible cover to cover for the first time when i was about 17 years old and have read it at least twice more since then.
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A Psychoanalytic History of the Jews
by opusdei1972 in"a physchoanalytic history of the jews", by avner falk, is an interesting book in which we can read how the jewish scribes colored their stories so as to show, for instance, yahweh's supremacy.
this is in fact currently done by the modern jehovists like jehovah's witnesses who color the adventures of the bible students between 1914-1919 in order to show that jehovah's son has appointed the boozy judge rutherford and his friends as the modern channel of yah.
https://books.google.com.br/books?id=z10-xz9kno4c&pg=pa163&lpg=pa163&dq=contradiction+++with+uzziah%27s&source=bl&ots=ajry4jgxsv&sig=n9er8uuyu75cxmgunjgpg5wg8qe&hl=pt-br&sa=x&ei=7c6xviysk-3nsatkl4cqbg&ved=0cd8q6aewbq#v=onepage&q=contradiction%20%20%20with%20uzziah%27s&f=false.
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opusdei1972
"A Physchoanalytic History of the Jews", by Avner Falk, is an interesting book in which we can read how the Jewish scribes colored their stories so as to show, for instance, Yahweh's supremacy. This is in fact currently done by the modern Jehovists like Jehovah's Witnesses who color the adventures of the Bible Students between 1914-1919 in order to show that Jehovah's Son has appointed the boozy judge Rutherford and his friends as the modern channel of Yah.
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Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses
by wannaexit ini was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.
this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.
it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.
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.....As I mentioned before, some years ago, in may last congregation here in Brazil, an elder gave frequently talks against those young ones who decide to study in the university. He said that those are being disloyals against Jehovah. So, this is not a destructive advice only for US brothers, but a worldwide Watchtower's propaganda against the University. -
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Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses
by wannaexit ini was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.
this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.
it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.
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opusdei1972
I am living in Brazil, I lived in Perú and Argentina. So I can say that the anti-higher education Watchtower's propaganda is worldwide. But I have noticed that here in Brazil the witnesses obey more seriously the Watchtower's ban against university studies. -
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When a religion separates a son and his mother,....Is it just???
by opusdei1972 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii9xndzkr4e.
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Heaven Yes, I have to admit that Jehovah's Witnesses do not create peace as Jesus wished.
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When a religion separates a son and his mother,....Is it just???
by opusdei1972 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii9xndzkr4e.
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Did Josephus believe in Jesus as The Christ?
by opusdei1972 inhere is the questioned josephus' text :.
now, there was about this time jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful worksa teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure.
he drew over to him both many of the jews, and many of the gentiles.
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The main problem, as far as I know, is that the writings of Josephus were mainly in hands of Christians. I think that Jews were not interested in them, because he was regarded as a traitor.
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Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real (shows the way to JWs?)
by exWTslave inpope thus admits that every verse of the bible is not literally inspired.
it is like a story that is built to awaken the readers to some principles (not to educate the readers the historicity with all the minute details).. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-wand-9822514.html.
if gb is wise enough, they can come out of the mess they have gone into, making use of this opportunity that pope has opened saying bible is not to be taken literally.
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opusdei1972
Most of Catholic Scholars know that the Genesis account is not historical. Of course, it destroys the doctrine of "original sin", but they don't want to admit it oficially. For instance, Cardinal George Pell has said that the account of Adam and Eve is a myth. And he said it before Dawkins in a public debate. Pell was not excomunicated for that public declaration. Contradictorily, the governing body insists in the historicity of Adam and Eve.
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WT Study 26th Oct. '14
by BluesBrother ini could find another thread so i thought i might add a few comments here - not a full critique though.
"hear jehovah's voice wherever you are".
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140815/hear-jehovahs-voice/.
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If you don't find the woman you would like in any kingdom hall, the organization says to you: "Wait on Jehovah".
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Apostates are more all knowing than GOD?
by Maat13 inif "apostates" can predict what jw.org will do (i.e., doctrinal changes, business practices, etc), but jw.org gb is led by god's holy spirit, then yes.
apostates are more all knowing than god.
random thought of the day...i'm sure it's not original.. maat.
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opusdei1972
Apostates and atheists were always all knowing than the god of the Bible. They discovered that the Bible is not inspired, but believers are still blind.