Posts by darkspilver

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November 1, 2016 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Using and Maintaining Kingdom Halls

by wifibandit in

november 1, 2016 to all bodies of elders re: using and maintaining kingdom halls.

table of contents.

ownership .........................................................................................pars.

darkspilver

I don't think there's really much new in this letter, apart from the obvious realization that some dodo has had that it might just be easier to have one letter with all the information in one place rather than spreading it all about in NINETEEN letters from the last TWENTY-FIVE YEARS.

After all, the WT's house of cards is falling down, so why have a house of letters instead when just one will do

1. This letter has been added to the list of policy letters that will be cited in Index to Letters for Bodies of Elders (S-22) and replaces the letters dated January 1, 1991; November 2, 1995; April 15, 1997; May 30, 2000; July 30, 2002; August 1, 2003; December 31, 2005; January 8, 2008; December 11, 2009; December 20, 2009; June 11, 2011; April 8, 2014; June 9, 2014; March 30, 2015; October 14, 2015; October 15, 2015; October 26, 2015; May 13, 2016; and September 23, 2016; to all bodies of elders.

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The increasing WT magazine

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

apart from the interesting block color change for the title strip on the front page.... the new 2017 wt mag has some new (updated printing figures):.

2016: produced each issue: 58,987,000 available in 282 languages .

2017: produced each issue: 61,651,000 available in 294 languages.

darkspilver

Hi jwfacts

Printing an additional 16 million tractazines per issue has zero affect on growth.
[snip]
JW's use the huge number of magazines printed

No!

that's the point, printing has DECREASED, and continues to decrease!

that's why WT uses the term 'produced', to included electronic downloads rather than just physical copies.

which means that the decrease in physical printing matches the decrease that WT is facing as their house of cards fall down.

Actually you could say the reverse is happening - that the number of baptisms is actually holding up despite a decrease in physical printing of the magazines.

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Worship of Men and Emphasis on Titles

by HereIgo in

i remember a few years back at a circuit assembly, a few bros were introducing themselves to the co, they made sure to mention that they were an ms or an elder from such and such cong.

i was also an ms, but was the only one that introduced themselves by just my first name.

i was so irritated and blown away at the arrogance by these bros, trying to impress men with titles!

darkspilver

Hi ttdtt

I think the announcements at the Conventions and Assemblies is more about adding weight to the words the guy is going to say, and not an ego thing. (By the way its in the instructions for the talks and for the chairman)

The convention programmes used to be printed for each location individually and included the names of the speakers (and congregation?) next to their item/talk - that stopped a number of years ago and just a generic programme is printed nowadays.

The announcing of the name along with their congregation name or circuit (if a Circuit Overseer) or if they're in Bethel etc is fine - it's when they start saying how many years they've served doing this and so many years doing that when it grates.

But it depends how it's done, occassional exceptions could be made, perhaps for 'human interest' reasons - maybe adding they used to be a missionary in such-and-such country if it was fairly unique, or perhaps knowledging the brother's personal situation that would add weight to his talk.

Otherwise it just sounds like a competition - which speaker has done the 'most' and the 'longest' whatever

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RBC Used Tools Liquidation - 80% Off Cost!

by thedepressedsoul in

has anyone else received this email?

"items priced to move, up to 80% off cost".

i'd post the email but i worry they put secret identifying marks on it somehow.

darkspilver

Hi Lostandfound

I know RBCs replaced but does not this equipment sale indicate end of KH builds?

Apparently, Yes!

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HELP needed from folks in UK, esp. in Scotland!

by WTS Archive in

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friends

tl;dr: if you live either in scotland or in other parts of uk and you don't mind traveling, you might be able to help a fellow ex-jw by being present during a courtcase where she alone has to face more than two dozens of jws who have ruined their business.

please contact me directly for details on when and where the court case will be held (i will know these details in few days probably).

ps.

darkspilver

"Greggs To Move Across the Road With Room for Seating"

haha! I saw that too

You're probably gonna have to explain it to a lot of people on this forum tho....

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And What about yearbook 2017 ??

by keinlezard in

in the letter of 21st may 2016 the gb explain that examining the scripture and yearbook will be available at beginning in october ... .

then we are the 26 octobre 2016 ... i saw examining the scripture ... but not yet yearbook .... is the gb modifying the figure of annual report ?

or the partakers ?

darkspilver

I think last year the 2016 Yearbook came out online maybe December 25, on a Friday. (Funny, I know, but I think that was the day).

Yes, seems right - unfortunately this forum's software seems to only show how long ago a post was originally posted - ie '10 months ago', but according to the link below, Friday 25 December 2015 seems correct.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5O25TquiW0xSVV0QXJZQURpdTQ/view?usp=sharing

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And What about yearbook 2017 ??

by keinlezard in

in the letter of 21st may 2016 the gb explain that examining the scripture and yearbook will be available at beginning in october ... .

then we are the 26 octobre 2016 ... i saw examining the scripture ... but not yet yearbook .... is the gb modifying the figure of annual report ?

or the partakers ?

darkspilver

[People may remeber that the annual worldwide service report was once included in the January 1st Watchtower, then shifted to the February 1st Watchtower but in more recent years is no longer published in the Watchower but only in the Yearbook.]

And some people might also remember that, for one year only, as part of the change over, it was printed as a four page insert in the February 2008 Kingdom Ministry

Traditionally the Worldwide Annual Report Chart was printed in the Watchtower 1st January edition - which was normally the first time that the publishers saw the annual numbers, probably around late October/November.

In addition it was, and so far has continued to be, printed in the Yearbook, but these would often arrive 'late' to a lot of congregations, probably around late January, February, or even March.

The WT missed the Jan 1st Watchtower in both 2004 and 2006 when it was printed in the 1st February edition instead.

2006 was the last time it was printed in the Watchtower.

In 2007 it was printed in the February Kingdom Ministry as a one-off.

The figures are now only printed in the Yeabook.

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HELP needed from folks in UK, esp. in Scotland!

by WTS Archive in

jw
friends

tl;dr: if you live either in scotland or in other parts of uk and you don't mind traveling, you might be able to help a fellow ex-jw by being present during a courtcase where she alone has to face more than two dozens of jws who have ruined their business.

please contact me directly for details on when and where the court case will be held (i will know these details in few days probably).

ps.

darkspilver

WTS Archive:

The newspaper that will cover the story is either The Daily Telegraph or Sunday Telegraph (they've apparently didn't decide yesterday which one will take it).

slimboyfat:

Evening Telegraph in Dundee that would make sense

Does the Tele print on a Sunday?? Doesn't it just do a Saturday/Weekend edition?

101

HELP needed from folks in UK, esp. in Scotland!

by WTS Archive in

jw
friends

tl;dr: if you live either in scotland or in other parts of uk and you don't mind traveling, you might be able to help a fellow ex-jw by being present during a courtcase where she alone has to face more than two dozens of jws who have ruined their business.

please contact me directly for details on when and where the court case will be held (i will know these details in few days probably).

ps.

darkspilver

I'm curious about all these Polish JWs in Scotland it would be interesting to meet some.

I think you'll find a fair number were already JWs before moving to Scotland.

And remember there's apparently meant to be a historical ongoing relationship between the two countries

http://www.scotsman.com/heritage/people-places/scotland-and-poland-a-500-year-relationship-1-4081795

http://polishscottishheritage.co.uk/

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The increasing WT magazine

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

apart from the interesting block color change for the title strip on the front page.... the new 2017 wt mag has some new (updated printing figures):.

2016: produced each issue: 58,987,000 available in 282 languages .

2017: produced each issue: 61,651,000 available in 294 languages.

darkspilver

Hi slimboyfat

I don't think they count downloads do they?

Why not? Downloads are counted as placements nowadays on the WT report form at the end of each month....

Anecdotally there are comments that they're progressively priniting less each month - yet figures above claim an annual increase - so it would kinda make sense if downloads were included (and they know which magazine issues are being downloaded - so they could do a fair estimate, but of course there will be a few publishers doing multiple downloads of the same magazine on various devices (including app)