I am not baptized, so no jc for me. However, if they wanted to do a shepherding call I would talk to them. And record it. It would be interesting to hear what they would say. There is nothing they could say that would make me a believer. I would do it because their lack of answers may help my husband.
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At This Point In Time Would You Ever Subject Yourself To A Judicial Committee?
by minimus ini certainly wouldn't.
and if the elders wanted to have a meeting with me, i would respectfully decline.
if the elders wanted to deal with you, would you talk with them?.
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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown
by Simon inafter a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.
let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .
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HeyThere
There is a reality to the whole "driving while black" and the "black experience" in general. Some of the comments here show ignorance to this experience. Not ignorance in a bad way, just the lack of that experience. This experience is something that a white man will never experience but that doesn't make it any less of a reality. And it is very real. I have seen it in action time and again throughout my life.
Here are a few examples.
1. When I was a teen I worked at a grocery store. We were near a high school. When the high school kids came in, the store manager would have the black teen males followed. I witnessed the white kids stealing and I never told the manager because I thought he was a douche for profiling the dang kids. It was my own little ha ha to him.
2. A good friend of mine was pulled over 26 times in one year after getting a new audi. I heard disparaging comments made by officers one time as I was on the phone with him. They would search his car, then give him outrageous tickets. He was black driving a new audi and was profiled as a drug dealer. He is a middle class college graduate.
I know a lot of cops, cops who are good, honest people. A cops job is high stress and they put their lives at risk everyday. But profiling does happen, and it does cause damage. I know a lot of people, I surround myself with people of all backgrounds.
Now, cases. Treyvon was being followed by zimmerman. If some crazy guy was following me I would likely defend myself, too. Zimmerman has proven to be an aggressive hot head and is an idiot. He has a history of violence. He instigated the altercation and then cried foul. Zimmerman was not a cop, but a wannabe cop with anger issues. Zimmerman is a murderer who got away with it because of stand your ground. Comparing that case to this is apples and oranges.
Same with that poor kid who got shot by that crazy dude because his music was being played loud. I was happy that dumb ass was convicted. That was unprovoked murder. Again, apples and oranges.
This situation is different. MB was aggressive, had just robbed someone, and was clearly feeling himself already. He acted stupidly by antagonizing the cop, by getting aggressive, by being uncooperative when he was already suspected of the robbery. Had he behaved better, he would still be alive. With what I know of this case, I do not think this cop shot him because he was black, but because he was scared. There are too many conflicting stories. But he was approaching a man who had just robbed a store.
I do question the number of shots fired. He could have taken out a kneecap or two. So I do think excessive force was used. But not necessarily because of racial profiling. And I Am SUPER Sensitive to These Situations Because Of The Things I have witnessed. Because of stories of unnecessary police shootings of black males resulting in death where it shouldn't have happened. But stop comparing Treyvon and that kid that got shot in the car with this situation. They are not the same.
The looting and rioting is so sad. It is ignorance and it is pain and anger. It is people taking advantage of a situation who are out for themselves. But reality is profiling does happen to black males, this is real. There is a divide. So anytime a shooting happens, there is doubt. There is suspicion. Comments here about doubting "they" pay taxes and such is an example of this profiling and also is disappointing. There are millions of people who come from poor neighborhoods who aren't black and don't pay taxes. There are millions of middles class black families who pay taxes. And there is definitely racial profiling that places black males on the defensive.
While in college I took a psychology class where my instructor, a white male, shared his experience as part of a men's group he had participated in. He is white. The group paired men of different races together to not just share experiences they have had but to also go out and observe. His eyes were opened to the fact that black men are more likely to be treated differently and he now realizes just how real profiling is. He explained that he now knows that no white man will ever truly feel the "black experience" but they should all pay attention and try.
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Another subliminal picture in the WT!!!!
by DATA-DOG ini just happend to wonder if the current issue had any hidden goodies.
imagine my delight!.
a gold star to the first person to correctly identify the image!.
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HeyThere
Advertising images often have hidden pictures to stir wanted emotions...it makes sense that a goat could be blended into this image so people associate Adam as a goat...not being paranoid or mentally deseased...This is not unusual.
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Another subliminal picture in the WT!!!!
by DATA-DOG ini just happend to wonder if the current issue had any hidden goodies.
imagine my delight!.
a gold star to the first person to correctly identify the image!.
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HeyThere
I see several...multiple faces, what looks like a lady bit on his tucked under foot, and Adams clothes have a goat head image. I haven't read other responses, I will mark what I see later if no one else sees them all. This is totally crazy!
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The secret corporations
by thinker inmost powerful people have a number of underlings to do their "dirty work".
this is the story of one of those underlings:.
the watchtower bible & tract society of new york, located at 25 columbia heights in brooklyn, new york was incorporated in 1909 in the state of new york as a private company, by charles taze russell and several of his followers.
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HeyThere
Something to definitely dig into as part of my research.
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New JW Podcast Show Available - S01E02 Tight Spanx
by God_Delusion inhello my lovelies!.
we've just recorded and released our brand new episode, s01e02 tight spanx.. where would we be without the gift that keeps on giving, governing body member, anthony morris iii?
last week he discussed the real dangers that exist when one wears spanx and tight pants.
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Great stuff! Really enjoying the show.
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Why do "Apostates/exjws" always go into "Watchtower-bashing" when you show them inconsistencies in the Bible?
by booker-t ini have noticed with "apostates/exjws" they always resort to "watchtower-bashing" whenever you show them inconsistencies of the bible.
we could be talking about contradictions, such as where did cain get his wife if adam,eve, abel, and cain were the only ones on earth?
the usual answer when they cannot answer will be "well the wt gave false prophecies in 1975".
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HeyThere
Emotions, ranging from anger to contempt, are expected when someone "loses their religion" so to speak. I don't think it's fair to say everyone does it, or to throw the apostate label around...but when a topic comes up that reminds someone of a time of stress and unhappiness, in some cases family was lost, business, jobs, etc. Therefore, in a nutshell, emotions.
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I need help
by tiredroadie inim new here, and dont know much about jw, other than what im reading.
i have my best friend who is having bible study in her home with 2 witnesses, and she is soaking it in.
she is very defensive and is getting more and more closed off.
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Find some of the crazy contents of watchtower past...Such as original wording regarding prophesies, the comments surrounding antimatter and spirit mediums turning into octopus creatures, vaccines being from the devil, black people turning white when perfected in the new system...etc. don't attack just ask what she thinks of these things. There is plenty of nutty stuff.
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how many non born ins ever attended a church?
by sowhatnow inim curious, how many people on here had belonged to another church, or have enough knowlege of one.
to have thought the kingdom hall was a better option?
the wt articles often in the past, critisized other churches as being full of false christains, i have one from 1955 that rips on the roman catholic church.. not that they are free of guilt, but, i thought, gee, how many of these critisizers ever went to a small church to make that judgment?.
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HeyThere
I was never a baptized witness, but I do have plenty of experience with other churches and the kh's to form an opinion. And hands down, every other church I have ever attended is so much better than kingdom hall/jw worship.
I was raised attending Christian churches. The youth groups were amazing. We raised money to feed the poor, went on missions trips to help build schools, supported missionairies, at one point I was part of a traveling play that raised money for a missions trip. I didn't get judged if I went to another denomination such as baptist or methodist, not even when I started going to kh was I judged. There was fun, community, love, support, and true charity.
All groups of people will have people with issues, or more eccentric, or crazy, or....whatever. But I feel so bad for those who think church is a place of sin and false worship because of the lies told from the tower.
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"You have to find out her fears and exploit that. What is her worst fear?"
by cognac inliterally, a text message to my husband from one of his "friends".
he also wrote, "it's in her hands.
it's her move now.
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HeyThere
((((Cognac)))) sending positive thoughts your way. So sorry you are going through this. Stay strong and independent, don't let them wear you down. Hopefully your husband's mental situation with reveal to him how loving the bOrg really is and his eyes will be opened.