in 2018, cyprus goes bankrupt (again).
many of its inhabitants, lacking jobs and prospectives of a better future, emigrate to more prosperous countries.
cyprus' society is on the brink of collapse.
LisaRose: the first thing I thought of was a bEthel/watchtower farm model.
it would be considered a privilege to be invited to live there. The whole purpose would be to continue the kingdom work. The main r&f jws would not invited to live there... just a big country sized Bethel.
Maybe they would turn it into a JW tourist destination. They would have all of their major trainings there. They could broadcast from there to all the KH of the world.
Make it exclusive and a privilege to be earned.
well they didn't fully teach me ttatt but helped me on the way.............. first thing i do in the morning after waking up is grinding some nice coffee beans and getting the brew started while i take a hot shower.
after the shower i like to clean out all the nasty wax out of my ears with a q-tip (or cotton swab for those not familiar with that term).. while cleaning out my ears i would think about how nice it is we have things like q-tips and coffee filters that make life more enjoyable but at the same time realize that somebody somewhere is in a factory making these.. i can't imagine a child saying "when i grow up i want to work in a factory making coffee filters".
the people who end up really doing that as adults did not set that to be a life goal.
I missed this thread last month. I just wanted to say I enjoyed your OP and your unique perspective. I am looking forward to more of your posts.
The illustrations of paradise always showed a simple life. No tips or coffee filter in sight.lol.. I always assumed we would each be self-sufficient and have self sustainable communities.
I used to wonder what would happen after the earth and was filled. No more children? My fantasy solution was the perfect brains would figure space flight and we would be inhabiting other planets.
need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.
thanks for any info.. .
Stuckinarut 2: personally some of those examples: David, Peter, used to comfort me and make me view god as loving & forgiving.
When I would get to feeling bad about my short comings, and i would think about David and how God forgave him because he knew his heart. I would say to myself: at least I didnt kill anyone.
So I don't know if considering those examples actually call Gods love into question but maybe highlights his mercy.
These examples might make a great argument against shunning and for being more merciful.
OTWO: Re:Moses... now THAT example
did make me question God's love and fairness. I always felt it was unfair for Moses not to get into the promised land after everything he had to put up with.
All the comfort I got from David was wiped away by Moses. Lol.
It makes sense now that I have realised these are just stories.
PS. Add Jonah to the list. Even after he got swallowed and spit out, he acted like a baby and sulked because the Ninivites werent destroyed.
Miss.Fit
wanted to send this to my "active" sister in hopes of awakening her, comments welcome.
she thinks i am a heathen apostate.... losing my religion.
preface.
Hi. I think it is way to long I would suggest picking one issue to bring up. Perferably one she might be open to.
Other wise she will probably stop reading or shut down.
just my 2cents.
Miss.Fit
you have to watch the movie "the giver"!
it is simply an awesome movie for every thinking witness, or those trying to break free from the org's hold on us.. i wont give away too much, but the concept of the film is mind blowing!
utopia vs reality etc... conformity vs individuality and humanity... etc.
It was one of my favorite books. She also wrote some sequels that i liked.
I havent watched the movie yet.
Has anyone done both? Which was better?
we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.
i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.
i had been yo-young back and forth for years.
Hi Cappytan. Thanks for responding.
Hang in there. You have plenty of time to discover and investigate. There will always be some emotional tie to loved ones.
I think some people are so emotionally invested that they will stay even if they no longer believe the teachings.
im not an attorney and i could not record the hearing, so please forgive me if i make mistakes in relating what i remember of the oral argument hearing for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society on january 14, 2015 and the length of this post.. i arrived at the civic center/union plaza in san francisco, ca about 7:30. the area is very nice with a few homeless people sleeping in the park across from the courthouse.
it took me about 10 minutes to find the clerks office for the court on the first floor, which opened at 8:00.. once the clerks office opened, the two clerks who i talked with were very polite and helpful.
the arguments for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society were scheduled 5th out of (i think) 8. while i was in the office a cameraman and another person for nbc arrived asking about the hearing for candace contis case.. the courtroom for the 1st appellate court is on the 4th floor and takes up most of that floor.
we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.
i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.
i had been yo-young back and forth for years.
I have noticed some new posters on the forum. I hope to get some more input.
Miss.Fit
as a jw, did you ever just resign yourself to being destroyed at armageddon because you knew you werent worthy?.
for almost half my life i felt like i was under a death sentence- "a dead man walking.
" i was my judge, jury and executioner.
Cappytan: Good for you. Some times we have to scare ourselves before we get help. Has finding out about TTATT made things easier or harder?
Do you still practice cognitive therapy?
Redvip & Bugbear: Thanks for sharing.
I would compare myself to others.
After I woke up I realized how much the org. used fear of the big A like other religions used hell fire.
Miss.Fit
as a jw, did you ever just resign yourself to being destroyed at armageddon because you knew you werent worthy?.
for almost half my life i felt like i was under a death sentence- "a dead man walking.
" i was my judge, jury and executioner.
Wholovesmagic: hey twins!! Lol. OMG talk about almost identical paths. Welcome. Thanks for posting. I hope to get to "know" you. It seems we have alot in common.
I was fringed too, even when I was regular. How did your husband view the JWs and your involvement?
My husband was neutral. As long as I didnt preach to him, he was fine. I did mything and he did his. I think he liked the quiet time when I took the kids with me.
I never told him about my death sentence (or his. )
You wised up before I did. I tried reactivating myself and lasted almost 2 years before I admitted defeat. I was still in mentally until 2013. I had been irregular and edging towards being inactive again. I made conventions and the memorial.
I agree the load is lighter now.
Miss.Fit
