I mirror Terry's views here. One of the best threads in much, much a long time.
This is gonna keep me awake I know.
Looking forward to the thread growing .
i have assigned myself a probably impossible task: i want to see if i can pick out the highlights of the evolution of judaeo/christian soteriology (doctrine of salvation).
i am making available the first draft very rough ideas of two chapters at:.
http://www.jwstudies.com/take_a_look_over_my_shoulder.pdf .
I mirror Terry's views here. One of the best threads in much, much a long time.
This is gonna keep me awake I know.
Looking forward to the thread growing .
i've heard many experiences about how jehovah answers the prayers of jw's - convention items about pioneers gas bills, car repairs, job opportunities.
now, if this is true, you are actually stating that god has directly intervened in your life.
taken action on your behalf.
What intrigued me was the question ...that is before I came to the realization that it was a book cooked up by the Jews to keep themselves in line with their leaders's veiws....was the criteria Hobo used to choose good ole Abe and his progeny as His people. What I wondered at was how come there wasn't a single person on earth at the time who could match him for goodness? And what was so good about him? He almost let his wife have her virtue violated. Was willing to murder his son on hearing g a voice asking him to do so? Or was it an angel or a dream? Hell too effing immaterial to remember. Was it a piece if flaming lumber? Who cares . The book is so full of s***. The same flawed principle is carried through in the prayer business. Pick and choose who yu wanna listen to, who yu wanna make rich or famous or a criminal or a Judas.
There's a friend , catholic, who prayed to St. Anthony for the return of a lost ear ring. Two months ago. Expensive. Found it 3 dys later in the trash. Believes implicitly that prayers are answered. Similar to an example given in another post above. Prayer helps in finding an ear ring . But doesn't when asking in anguish for a terminal disease or malady or hunger to be ameliorated or ended.
Typical human traits pinned on to an imaginary sky pilot.
was there anything positive about your jehovah's witness experience?.
A lot of good looking girls. Who desperately needed making out with -but were scared shitless .Nevertheless yu could tell by the body lang. When they were near yu. The way they hung on your word or sit rapturous while yu gave a 5 min. Talk from the pulpit.
Hell man . What a waste of divine womanhood ... to be lost on some bigot who thinks he has a"fine standing with Hobo"!!!
Fuckadoodledoo...those women....sigh!
i found this article online when i was researching information on another post and i am only posting it as an historical item of interest.
it is not intended to slam the judge.. .
i apologize if this has been posted and discussed before..
Rutherford liked Money Power and Pussy. All of us do. Nothing wrong with that. But he was willing and able to take a lame brained religion and see it for what it was. A means to getting all three. He did what he had to, had a grand time of it, knew nothing would be done by anyone as they were all hypnotized by the religious mumbo jumbo. Of all the JW heads, Imo, he alone knew the bullshit they were preaching and teaching , added his own to keep the shit afloat and just went on enjoying life. Never got caught. His brother on the other hand did not have the requisite skills to swindle on that large a scale so resorted to petty stuff. And got caught if the report is true.
i have, for about 6 months now, been trying to watch every single movie that was "cool" or interesting since 1960.it started out with a desire to watch as an adult all disney movies.
then it morphed into all bond movies (except for the non-canonicals).now it's turned into pretty much any and all movies.
here is my list, scratched out are ones i have seen, green are recent next-in line.turns out there was a lot i had never seen before, about 70% because of the cult restrictions!
If I can add T serials..
Breaking Bad
Sons of Anarchy
The Paradise
Ripper Street ( Still Watching)
Spartacus
Rome (Still Watching)
Mr. Selfridge ( yet to watch)
Reign
Vikings (Still Watching)
Downtown Abbey
Upstairs Downstairs
Black Sails (Still watching)
Hell On Wheels (Still Watching)
Walking Dead ( got bored watching)
Orange Is The New... ( Found it boring),
Would love to kow if there are others worth watching.
How is
Longmire?
Versailles?
where a few of us here on the forum live is in an emergency situation.
the main spillway on oroville dam -- the tallest dam in the usa -- is damaged.
the emergency spillway, never used before in the 48 years the dam has operated, is eroding.. major confusion and panic occurred when the order went out sunday, late afternoon: this is not a drill!.
IF THEY CAN EFFECT EMERGENCY REPAIRS WITHIN THE NEXT THREE DAYS.More storms predicted this Fri Sat and Sun possibly Mon Tue Wed. According to my android weather report.
Wishing all that's good and safe for all the people there. Hope things turn out well for everyone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/al_jarreau https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_mrngeorxs.
Sad loss to the Jazz world. Will.miss you Al.!!
it seems that the other threads about trump's policies are veering off into endless ideological theories about how much better we are than islam.
does anyone think there is a chance that islam can be changed in the same manner that christianity has over the centuries?
with the inflow of ideas from western countries into the middle east, will people gradually want to move away from sharia law to something less patriarchal and cruel?
If yu think JW'S Are a cult or the Mormons or Scientiologists think again. Wahabi muslims and all their adherents are indoctrinated a hundred times more.
How successful is the movement in exposing these three cults. Realistically speaking? Now imagine the insurmountable task of getting billions of Muslims to get out of cult mode. Mohammed was the father of this cult. And he has rivited his teachings into the minds of his followers so deep that even a nuke won reach it to dislodge.
I would advocate reading the Quran to understand the extent of the madmans cultic teachings. English translations are available although they won't call it "translations" since their god wanted them to read his words only in arabic.
many sites claim that c.t.
russell was a mason.barbara anderson and james penton, respected wt historians, claim that he was not.according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_freemasonsthroughout history some members of the fraternity have made no secret of their involvement, while others have not made their membership public.
in some cases, membership can only be proven by searching through the fraternity's records.
Finkelstien
That's the version usually used to take your oath on if yu are a Christian in a lodge.
it seems that the other threads about trump's policies are veering off into endless ideological theories about how much better we are than islam.
does anyone think there is a chance that islam can be changed in the same manner that christianity has over the centuries?
with the inflow of ideas from western countries into the middle east, will people gradually want to move away from sharia law to something less patriarchal and cruel?
Every muslim believes that Islam will take over the world and their god Allah will subjugate the entire world into submission to islam. This is a deep rooted belief embraced by each and everyone of them. The majority remained silent while the Taliban and then the ISIS was running amuck. They wanted to believe that this was fulfillment of their scriptures. Make no mistake. These guys want the Sharia snice it is from their god allah to whom and whose will they must all submit. Why else would their women want the hijab in the US and the rest of the West when it is an imposition on their freedom? As for reform. Don't hold your breath. It isn't happening anytime soon. The only true reformer is the Aga Khan and his followers known as the Khojas. It is strange no one has asked his opinion on islam and what can be done to reform the Wahabi version.