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Jwfacts tv appearance
by sparrowdown in
1. jw
2. friends
shout out to jwfacts.. just saw the drum.

excellent job !

!.
umbertoecho

Thanks for that, he did a good job. Level headed and to the point. Just watched it....
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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!
by Calebs Airplane in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

that is all..
umbertoecho

Watchtower can't take down those oh so public records or the uploaded videos. How can they deny the typed and public transcripts. This, as far as I am concerned is excellent. For so long the society has done nothing but brag with each legal win they had. I would like to see them brag with the same conviction now.
Someone here once asked if the internet could bring the WTBTS down. I think the internet can due to the huge amounts of information that travel swiftly around the world.
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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!
by Calebs Airplane in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

that is all..
umbertoecho

The evidence produced is now available for those who want to take this to court. Documents such as those presented help the cases of many who would normally not take action. That's one good thing to come out of it. It is now 'evidence', gained in a lawful manner and held on record.
The rest is about revealing and in a way shaming organizations. There is also the idea planted into legislators minds that a fund, a compensation is the out come that should be incorporated into the law as a par for the course. The RC is not finished it is adjourned until some aspects are researched.
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Huge list of victims
by umbertoecho in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

i pressed all the wrong buttons.

here it is, posted about an hour ago..
umbertoecho

Oh shit, sorry. I will repost the whole damned document if I have to.
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Huge list of victims
by umbertoecho in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

i pressed all the wrong buttons.

here it is, posted about an hour ago..
umbertoecho

https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact
Sorry about that. I pressed all the wrong buttons. Here it is, posted about an hour ago.
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Can disassociated ones get reinstated without proving repentance?
by maksutov in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
one of the jw high-ups questioned by the australian royal commission (i think it was o'brien) stated that those who had disassociated (as opposed to being disfellowshipped) do not have to undergo a lengthy reinstatement procedure of proving repentance over many months, but can simply ask to be reinstated immediately.

is this true?

has anyone heard of this ever happening?.
umbertoecho

maksutov, The fact is, one of my family disassociated themselves from the JWreligion.
If this relative goes back to attending, there will be the usual interrogation and a disfellowshipping due to the life style that has been led. We both know this and remain quiet for this very reason.
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Adjourned...........not over.
by umbertoecho in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
jehovahs witnesses hearing adjourned.

6 august, 2015. .

the hearing into the jehovahs witnesses has adjourned until further notice.case study 29 into the jehovahs witnessescommenced on monday 27 july 2015, inquiring into jehovah's witnesses and watchtower bible and tract society of australia ltd.further information regarding this public hearing will be announced in due course.. .
umbertoecho

Jehovah’s Witnesses hearing adjourned
6 August, 2015
The hearing into the Jehovah’s Witnesses has adjourned until further notice.

Case Study 29 into the Jehovah’s Witnessescommenced on Monday 27 July 2015, inquiring into Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia Ltd.

Further information regarding this public hearing will be announced in due course.
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ARC: why the contstant secrecy?
by SecretSlaveClass in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
anyone watching the inquiry would have heard the org's attorney asking that the documents outlining the stucture and mechanics of the wbts be kept confidential.

all this subversive and clandestine behavior is not helping their image.

what do you all suppose is potentially damnimg in these documents?
umbertoecho

The society has told all WT congregations to hand over "all" money to America, except for a small amount say $5,000 that may be used for maintenance....so...if the speakers and microphones blow up, tough.
My totally in family paid 15.000 to have the speaker system updated for their local hall.
Then a few short years later they were moved to hall that is in disrepair............Interesting.
No large assemblies here in Australia this year too.....all cancelled due to lack of funds.
No kidding, it's official from straight from her elder sons gob and the elder I spoke with.
WT lawyer may have been concerned to see so much funding being shipped off to America. They were told that they don't owe debts anymore, but they must continue to pay what their original debts amounted to. Those halls that are out right owned were to hand over deed titles, ................and keep sending all monies to the WT headquarters.
The WTlawyers don't want that coming out do they? And that's just one angle.
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Proceedings and Decievings
by Coded Logic in
1. social
2. entertainment
you may be seated.. peter mcclellan: now, mr. ministerial servant, as i understand it, you are authorized to make decisions in regards to child abuse cases?.

now, mr. elder, as i understand, it you are authorized to make decisions in regards to child abuse cases?.

now, mr. slick, as i understand it, you are authorized to make decisions in regards to child abuse cases?.
umbertoecho

OMG You had mescreaming with laughter at this script.............how bloody hilarious was that.......
Don't ever stop with the wit, the irreverent humour.............It was the very thing that drew me to this forum two years ago. Awesomely clever and funny.....
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How big a deal is the royal commission..? It seems to be not much...
by _Morpheus in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
my understanding (very limited and maybe flawed) is that this commission has no teeth.

if thats true why would the org care?

send a few lawyers, go through the motions but in the end.... its a dog parking on a porch.
umbertoecho

Thank you Joe Grundy
The Royal Commission also established in a public manner this...............That those who are confessed child molesters are dealt with in the congregation. No importance by the WTBTS was given to the "public safety" that should be extended...........That was an excellent revelation and brings up so many potential actions on the part of the Australian Government who allow for the door to door preaching work.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses hearing adjourned