The Greens and independent senator Nick Xenophon ....
This guy is terrific. He is a bit eccentric, but he is very committed to correcting "wrongs". This includes tough laws and sentencing. He never chops and changes to please anyone....Nice guy.
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Cardinal Pell, was one of the those "elder like" men, we saw during last week. He was called sociopathic by some of his fellow peers. He would have loved to stay in Rome,doing whatever Rome does, but he was sort of 'forced' to return and face the music. Now he waxes compassionately? Hmmm strange shift in his outlook. He is not popular here at all.
Don't believe those quotes of outrage you have read. Someone probably slipped him a note telling him what to say, because he is incapable of relating to suffering.
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Justice in Historic Australian investigation says Jehovah's Witnesses child protection policies WORST
by Watchtower-Free inhistoric investigation of jws latest videos are on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxakzq0ity&feature=youtu.be.
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Well. I've enjoyed the banter here and the genuine concern for victims. I haven't slept for about three days. Just a nap here and there. I can't relax until this is all covered as far as the Royal Commission goes.
I have to say that you mad and lovely people have been awesome company. I love the humour here, the research, and the debates. There is more support in this place than any I have ever had in terms of coping. People get all hepped up over some things, then it all dies down and the search for wonderful gossip begins all over again. Secretly, I hope the WTBTS fall apart. I for one would be more than willing to get a trumpet and walk around their precious properties............if I thought it would crash them all.
Got to have a nap now. It is gone 5:30 here in Western Australia.
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Justice in Historic Australian investigation says Jehovah's Witnesses child protection policies WORST
by Watchtower-Free inhistoric investigation of jws latest videos are on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxakzq0ity&feature=youtu.be.
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Plus Heaven, may I remind you of how progressive they are with regard to degrading sexual practices........Not too long ago, a JW wife could not divorce her husband for beastiality because they were pretty sure that no half human half dog, cat, chook or horse would be born of this unholy alliance.
Then one day....they saw it was "not good". And they changed their minds........I think.
You are so lacking in faith for these " holy beyond holiness of these spirit appointed men" to guide you through the Great Tribulation and the big A. Where..... you too can have a dog, cat, badger or sit on a pit of friendly snakes............
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Justice in Historic Australian investigation says Jehovah's Witnesses child protection policies WORST
by Watchtower-Free inhistoric investigation of jws latest videos are on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxakzq0ity&feature=youtu.be.
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Ah! Heaven. Don't you know that all of them were repentant? Of course they were.
My sister said so and she has a direct line to the Guvnor through the GB( Greedy Bastards)
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One of the most important questions.
by Lemonp init is enthralling having everything being dragged kicking and screaming into the light of day.
however one of the most important things to ask is this:.
is the rc evidence admissable in other countries and other courts?.
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That statement by WT is two edged. Imagine a little girl of eight trying to find the right words to explain what she has gone through. Imagine how easy it would be for "elders" to disclaim her or his statements.
And if her father is the abuser? Or her mother? Again, if some adult assisted, there would be leeway for the elders to refute this child's statement and claim she was lead to say things by the person assisting her/him. It is full of holes and is worth pointing out to the Commission.
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Dr Applewhite and Conti's case
by Viva la Vida inthis is from conti's appeal veredict:.
monica applewhite, a clinical social worker and an expert on child sexual abuse, testified for defendants that watchtowers policy against disclosing private information .
very closely mirror[ed] the codes of ethics of the national association of social workers and the american counseling association.
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You could email it straight to the Royal Commission web site. You could all do something like that. In a respectful manner of course. There is a great need to show "less anger or outrage" than is allowed between discussions here.
Just send a bulk set of signatures and say you are "concerned" about this woman. Also, you could let the commission know that you are concerned about the use of Theocratic Warfare ie lying that is supported when JWs decide it's getting too hard.
Actually, you have started a great idea. If you members sent a signed petition via electronic means..........to Australian Royal Commission, attention to Stewart or His Honour. It would be a powerful message of concern. Think about it, but not for too long. Perhaps, I should start a thread. I am in Australia and to some degree, am involved in this commission.
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Dr Applewhite and Child Abuse
by snare&racket ini am shocked that an expert would simply examine only the literature given to her by the organisation she was defending and simply accept it.
also the ease she has in making huge sweeping statements when comparing the jw's to all other international religious organisations simply undermines her professionalism.. i am also thoroughly shocked at her blatant, 'expert for hire', 'will defend anyone' apparent decision making, the organisation is responsible for covering up thousands of abuse victims by its own records, in australia alone!
never mind their judicial process being heartless and traumatic!.
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The WT think that Australia is such an insignificant part of their population. I mean 70,000 maximum. They did not count on the fact that this commission has been in preparation since 2013. Gathering evidence, subpoenaing WT documents and letters, perusing and using the Elders hand book. They did not expect these men to have WT speak and knowledge at their disposal.
My own sister, a horrid woman and devout hypocrite was furious that they even had the bloody book!! How dare they she says with spittle flying in all directions and a crazed look in the eyes. Well my dear JW freak of a sis,..........."They just did because they can".
Some on this site may have initially thought that Stewart may have been sort of weak, but he was not. He was thorough and calm and undaunted by any reaction of the elders. He was empathetic to the victims but had to maintain focus. The last thing the commission will do is get all emotional ........angry if you like. The plight of the victims and the terrible disregard of WT to it's women and children was the prominent feature in disclosing WT practices and thus forcing those who were neglectful and denying any wrong doing, had to be done using the WT material. WT lawyers had no chance to approach or victimise those who had a factual account to tell.. Let this be a lesson in how not to under estimate your adversary........The Royal Commission.
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Australia Child Abuse Hearing Can we do a Highlight Reel?
by Lets Think inwatching the royal commission hearing.
unreal and so damming to the jw judicial systems!..
what i would love is if someone could put together a 20 minute highlight reel of the most damming parts.
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This Commission is also about establishing compensation to those who suffered abuse.
It will be considered within a few months as there has been so much to do with other religious practices such as Catholic cover ups. Legislation is drawn up with these case studies. Decisions may be implemented quite quickly if the commission considers that nothing genuine is being done for today's children,
There will be many court cases that emerge from this commission. Lawyers will have a wonderful time getting rich in their pursuit of claims for victims. Mainly, it will become somewhat politic to bring in across the board directives that will protect children. Now, at one stage JW religion was banned in Australia. And of course the Ozzy's love to recall that bit of history in their martyrdom. I would imagine that any religion that commences to revert back to their old ways..............will suffer where it hurts. Pocket.
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Dr Monica Applewhite!
by username ini'm just listening to this so called doctors testimony.
where did the watchtower dig her up from.
her answers have mostly been maybe's and i think!.
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Poztate............very funny..........EXCEPT!! The whole Royal Commission is on utube for the entire world to look at. And no matter what WT says, there will be little JDubs who just want a little peep...........then another little peep. Oh hell, lets open every tab and have an avalanche of peeps. Whoops!
They will have their tablets to sneak a look at this commission during boring talks and mind numbing assemblies. Assemblies here in Australia are done away with in the old sense now. Only lots of small ones churning out the usual crap. We're on a tight budget over hear, money is apparently as tight as Tony's pants.