a neighbour of mine had jw's call.
they told her that jesus was not the archangel michael!!
have they changed or what?
Good point Gary,
Look at how the "kurios" in v15 its translated as "Jehovah" but in verse 16 its just plain ole Lord.
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For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovah?s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep [in death]; 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel?s voice and with God?s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.......NWT
a neighbour of mine had jw's call.
they told her that jesus was not the archangel michael!!
have they changed or what?
*** g02 2/8 pp. 16-17 Who Is Michael the Archangel? ***XQs, Very interesting, anything more recent???The
Bible?s ViewpointWho
Is Michael the Archangel?
since you hijacked jez's thread, i borrowed her words for the title of your very own "welcome back brownboy" thread.. this can be fun.
everybody can ask you questions about bible prophecy and such, seeing as you and him are so close and all.
oh, waitsatan misled you...eh?
BB:..Your thinking ability along with every perceptiveness that God gave to you.Ro. 3:10 just as it is written: "There is not a righteous [man], not even one; 11 there is no one that has any insight, there is no one that seeks for God. 12 All [men] have deflected, all of them together have become worthless; there is no one that does kindness, there is not so much as one." NWT
The Bible says we do not have the "perceptiveness" that you state God gave us.
since you hijacked jez's thread, i borrowed her words for the title of your very own "welcome back brownboy" thread.. this can be fun.
everybody can ask you questions about bible prophecy and such, seeing as you and him are so close and all.
oh, waitsatan misled you...eh?
BB:..Your thinking ability along with every perceptiveness that God gave to you.
Ro. 3:10 just as it is written: "There is not a righteous [man], not even one; 11 there is no one that has any insight, there is no one that seeks for God. 12 All [men] have deflected, all of them together have become worthless; there is no one that does kindness, there is not so much as one." NWT
since you hijacked jez's thread, i borrowed her words for the title of your very own "welcome back brownboy" thread.. this can be fun.
everybody can ask you questions about bible prophecy and such, seeing as you and him are so close and all.
oh, waitsatan misled you...eh?
BB;...The WTS is in a position to teach bible truths because they have the tools set in place to do this.
You can Live Forever on a Paradise Earth: 1989; Pg. 179 p.9
Yes, for their excessive immorality the people of Sodom and of the surrounding cities suffered a destruction from which they will apparently never be resurrected.?2 Peter 2:4-6, 9, 10a.
You can Live Forever on a Paradise Earth: 1982; Pg179 p9
" Jesus showed that at least some of the unrighteous people of ancient Sodom and Gomorrah will be present on earth during Judgment Day. Although they had been very immoral, we can expect that some of them will be ressurected."
since you hijacked jez's thread, i borrowed her words for the title of your very own "welcome back brownboy" thread.. this can be fun.
everybody can ask you questions about bible prophecy and such, seeing as you and him are so close and all.
oh, waitsatan misled you...eh?
BB; .......................... What determines a christian is what is found in the heart.
"The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate. Jer 17:9 NWT
i was assigned to read 1984 by george orwell when in the eight grade i think.
now forty years to late to turn in a 'book report' i am reading it.
i see so many parallels to the witness org there.
It was only 36 years ago I was in the 8th grade. Glad to get that cleared up before someone thinks I am 'old'
LOL@ Jeff
perfection
after a discussion with a couple of current jws, it's come to my attention that my conception of perfection in "the kingdom" is very different from theirs.
on pages 188 & 189 of the knowledge book, we see the society's (or artist's) conception.
Me personally, I'm waiting for Captain Picard and Number One to contact me and tell me I'm done here and can beam back to the Enterprise!
LOL at euripides. It just goes to show ya, any problems with the paradise or A-geddon will be fixed by the Wt god, the "willy wonka" of the universe. (borrowed term from another poster)
i was at university the other night in the computer lab, cruising this site, well a fellow classmate who has been in my class since sept and we have become friends, walks past, looks at the site i am on and says, "i noticed you are on a jw site, did you know i am a jw, are you one?".
i was shocked.
i turned to him and let loose,.
Well I hope for his sake it does open his mind. Iam a jw and im sick to my stomach with everything i have been finding out. JWS pride themselves in all actualality of being the perfect religion.
Needinfo, welcome to the board. Randys site has a wealth of "info."
FM, The Wt doctrine for the 144k is very gray, as far as "Joe human" realizes he's anointed and all the sudden theres a manifestation of something in his human nature that can continue on to heaven. Which is a direct violation of doctrine. (soul)
Then if said subject falls away, that "thing" that was manifested to continue on to heaven after death is now somehow null and void. (where did it go)
after reading ray franzs 2 books and much information on this site we did a search comparing wt qoutes and had a local elder soon to be circuit ovsr at our house and the funny thing was he was unaware of much of the early wts.he also expressed some doubts when he applied to be a ministerial servant and they sent him back a letter making him an elder.his wife was here and when we brought coc out she jumped up like a person on fire.
the elder asked where else could we go?so there is doubt amoung the elders for sure.
i have a sense of loss however cannot support a self proclaimed prophet that is contrary to scriptural teaching and associated with falsehood and bloodguilt.
Welcome KO38,
Pretty cool peaking at the man behind the green curtain.
