Welcome to the board
If I may i would like to ask: does this "Holy Spirit" - of which you speak - present itself as totally all inclusive, unconditional with no beginning and no end, or is it somehow circumscribed and contingent upon specific conditions and/or beliefs? In what ways is it limited, if any?
What about someone like myself who does not accept Jesus as my Saviour, and who does not believe or give worship to a personal god out there?
I would concur with his comments and answer as follows:
"totally all inclusive, unconditional with no beginning and no end"
Bearing in mind I was a contented JW, I had no concept of "accepting Jesus as my Saviour" in the sense that Christians would put it.
"Born again" in contrast to "nominal Christians" who talk the talk, go to church on Sunday, but don't walk the walk.
are you saying what i think you're saying?!
Let's be candid, for a lot of people religion is a crutch. They genuinely need such a paradigm to function. Especially when they are aged, I have to question ripping this away from them.
While a number of Fundamentalist groups have commandeered the phrase "born again", this abuse isn't as prevalent over this side of the pond. It generally refers (though not exclusively) to someone who has had some kind of spiritual experience, which they attribute to the Holy Spirit and involving Christ.
I would add, for Tetra's benefit, that such an attributation may be conjecture, however it usually fit's well into that paradigm and finds itself continually re-substantiated.