Typical "paradise earth" speech

by Evanescence 46 Replies latest jw friends

  • Honesty
    All you need to do is go to the bible on the matter. God speaks vividly about the paradise earth. Id say he gives the best "speech" "talk" on the subject. defd

    The JW cult likes to quote Psalm 37:11 for proof of a paradise on earth, however if you examine the whole chapter it is very clear that the JW proof text has been taken out of context and their doctrine about a paradise on earth is very twisted.:

    Psalm 37

    Instruction in Wisdom


    1 Do not be agitated by evildoers;

    do not envy those who do wrong.

    2 For they wither quickly like grass

    and wilt like tender green plants.

    3 Trust in the Lord and do what is good;

    dwell in the land and live securely.

    4 Take delight in the Lord,

    and He will give you your heart’s desires.

    5 Commit your way to the Lord;

    trust in Him, and He will act,

    6 making your righteousness shine like the dawn,

    your justice like the noonday.

    7 Be silent before the Lord and wait expectantly for Him;

    do not be agitated by one who prospers in his way,

    by the man who carries out evil plans.

    8 Refrain from anger and give up [your] rage;

    do not be agitated—it can only bring harm.

    9 For evildoers will be destroyed,

    but those who put their hope in the Lord

    will inherit the land.

    10 A little while, and the wicked will be no more;

    though you look for him, he will not be there.

    11 But the humble will inherit the land

    and will enjoy abundant prosperity.

    12 The wicked schemes against the righteous

    and gnashes his teeth at him.

    13 The Lord laughs at him

    because He sees that his day is coming.

    14 The wicked have drawn the sword and strung the bow

    to bring down the afflicted and needy

    and to slaughter those whose way is upright.

    15 Their swords will enter their own hearts,

    and their bows will be broken.

    16 Better the little that the righteous man has

    than the abundance of many wicked people.

    17 For the arms of the wicked will be broken,

    but the Lord supports the righteous.

    18 The Lord watches over the blameless all their days,

    and their inheritance will last forever.

    19 They will not be disgraced in times of adversity;

    they will be satisfied in days of hunger.

    20 But the wicked will perish;

    the Lord’s enemies, like the glory of the pastures,

    will fade away—

    they will fade away like smoke.

    21 The wicked borrows and does not repay,

    but the righteous is gracious and giving.

    22 Those who are blessed by Him will inherit the land,

    but those cursed by Him will be destroyed.

    23 A man’s steps are established by the Lord,

    and He takes pleasure in his way.

    24 Though he falls, he will not be overwhelmed,

    because the Lord holds his hand.

    25 I have been young and now I am old,

    yet I have not seen the righteous abandoned

    or his children begging bread.

    26 He is always generous, always lending,

    and his children are a blessing.

    27 Turn away from evil and do what is good,

    and dwell there forever.

    28 For the Lord loves justice

    and will not abandon His faithful ones.

    They are kept safe forever,

    but the children of the wicked will be destroyed.

    29 The righteous will inherit the land

    and dwell in it permanently.

    30 The mouth of the righteous utters wisdom;

    his tongue speaks what is just.

    31 The instruction of his God is in his heart;

    his steps do not falter.

    32 The wicked lies in wait for the righteous

    and seeks to kill him;

    33 the Lord will not leave him in his hand

    or allow him to be condemned when he is judged.

    34 Wait for the Lord and keep His way,

    and He will exalt you to inherit the land.

    You will watch when the wicked are destroyed.

    35 I have seen a wicked, violent man

    well-rooted like a flourishing native tree.

    36 Then I passed by and noticed he was gone;

    I searched for him, but he could not be found.

    37 Watch the blameless and observe the upright,

    for the man of peace will have a future.

    38 But transgressors will all be eliminated;

    the future of the wicked will be destroyed.

    39 The salvation of the righteous is from the Lord,

    their refuge in a time of distress.

    40 The Lord helps and delivers them;

    He will deliver them from the wicked and will save them

    because they take refuge in Him.

    Psalms 37:1-40 (HCSB)

  • defd


    If you were ever a witness, then, you should ALREADY know this. No need for me to re-educate you on the elementary doctrines of the bible .

  • under74

    So, you can't name any.

  • Honesty
    name some scriptures DF. By the way, God didn't write the Bible. under 74

    Yes, let's see the scriptures instead of attacking the person who puts you on the spot with a valid question.

  • Honesty

    It should be obvious to the JW cult apologists who attempt to sway people back into the demon religion that the reason most of us are out and will never go back is because we researched what the Bible has to say instead of blindly trusting the twisted Governing Body of JW's to interpret it for us any longer. They can't even think enough to submit any proof scriptures to back up the outlandish WT claims with out looking the topic up in a WT publication and then parroting the Society's explanation that is subject to change at any time.

  • sweet tee
    sweet tee
    elementary doctrines of the bible .

  • DannyBloem


    All you need to do is go to the bible on the matter. God speaks vividly about the paradise earth. Id say he gives the best "speech" "talk" on the subject.

    Defd a question: Then why does the society needs to publish loads of information explaining it? Danny

  • under74

    I remember DFs first thread here http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/86019/1.ashx

    DF still sticks around for some reason even though DF knows that associating with apostates is against the rules.

    Anyway, Eve have you heard the good news?

  • NeonMadman

    Here are some "official" suggestions:


    km 1/83 p. 8 Presenting the Good News—With the Live Forever Book ***


    the Good News—With the Live Forever Book


    Eternal life in perfection in a beautiful earthly paradise! What a sublime gift from Jehovah! His love should impel us to share this hope with people in our territory, using the new book You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth.


    In order to be well equipped to discuss the subject of living forever in paradise on earth and to present this new book, all of us should first have read it ourselves. No doubt you have some interesting field service points that can be used with the new Topic for Conversation. Knowing the kind of people living in our territory will aid us in determining which chapters or specific points may be used to arouse their interest in Jehovah’s promise of everlasting life. Note illustrations that will capture the householder’s interest in the truth. Have these in mind when presenting the new book in your territory.




    The illustrations in chapter 19 are excellent for field service. After reading Psalm 37:29, you could say: "What do you think conditions on earth will be like when the righteous live here forever? [Allow householder an opportunity to reply.] Please note these illustrations and comments starting on page 156 of this new book." Then, depending on the time available, point out some of the features of God’s New Order as illustrated on pages 156-158, 161 and 162. Help the householder to appreciate the Scriptural support for the statements made. Then you may conclude with Isaiah 55:11, showing that we can fully rely on these promises. Offer the book on a contribution of $2.50.


    Chapter 1 harmonizes nicely with the new Topic for Conversation. After greeting the householder, you might say: "My purpose in calling is to share with you God’s promise to make this earth a paradise and give man unending life. Many people feel that the possibility of living forever on earth is just a dream. What do you think? [Allow for a response.] Scientists claim that man is made in such a way that he ought to live forever. These men say that the body’s ability to replace cells and thus renew itself should really continue indefinitely. [For more information see Truth book, page 28, paragraph 3; Awake!, April 22, 1977, pages 3-5.] The Bible agrees with that and speaks clearly and confidently about man living forever in a paradise earth. Notice what is stated here at Psalm 37:29. [If time permits, you may also read and comment on texts such as Isaiah 45:18; John 3:14-16, 36; Revelation 21:3, 4.] Some may be skeptical about this promise. However, since Jehovah God cannot lie, we have every reason to believe it. His words in Isaiah 55:11 assure it. [Read.] Is that not a wonderful prospect? [Allow for a comment.] I will be pleased to leave with you this new publication entitled You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth. Chapter 1 discusses further why living forever is not just a dream. The book is yours for a contribution of $2.50."


    If you are working in a territory where many do not believe in God, you could say: "My reason for visiting you today is to share information about the future. Have you ever wondered if it is possible for man to live forever? [Allow for comment.] Some are not inclined to believe this as they feel that God does not exist. So, living forever is considered just a dream. This book makes an interesting point that builds confidence in God’s existence and in the basis for believing his promises. [Point to page 35 and read paragraph 3.] Thus, when he created the earth and man, he had a purpose. [Read Psalm 37:29.] He has assured us that his purpose has not changed. [Read Isaiah 55:11.] It will be a pleasure to leave this new book with you on a contribution of $2.50."


    In view of what Jehovah has done in our behalf, we have much for which to be thankful. Show appreciation for his loving-kindness by aiding others with the help of the new Live Forever book. The good news of living forever is not just a dream.

  • defd

    Defd a question: Then why does the society needs to publish loads of information explaining it? Danny Danny When articles are printed about the paradise, for the ones who know about it and are waiting for it, it is an encouragement. It is a way to get those excited and to vigorate thier zeal and so-on. It is sort of like , if you promise your kids you are going to take them to Chucky Cheeses next week and mid week youd say" A couple more days we are going to chuckie cheeses!" The kids get all excited and happy,even though they ALREADY know they are going, the reminder makes them happy. Also it is printed about so much, for the ones who DO NOT know about it.

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