I was wrong, CT Russell was something of a prophet after all...

by jaffacake 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • jaffacake
    jaffacake

    I am reading studies in the scriptures (1911) thy kingdom come..On page 145 CT Russell describes what is wrong with religions of his day and their sunday schools & bible studies, ie people belong to earthly religions or organisations. Was he describing other sects of his day, or did he forsee what his Bible students would eventually become?:

    Methods hinder real growth in knowledge of truth...guarded, pointed questions, with prepared answers and no time left for the bible hungry student...Bible study, skilfully directed, so that he may get no new ideas...brief sessions [one hour] more agreeable than bible study...they are led to feel they have performed a duty, and a sacrifice.

    the true teacher's place, and the true bible student's place, is outside human bondage, free to examine and feed upon all portions of the word of God, and untrammeled to follow the Lamb whithersoever he leads...[in these last days] individual liberty MUST outwardly be recognised as never before...there never was a time so restraining on personal liberties as now.

    Every spare hour of a zealous sectarian is filled by some of the many meetings or projects so that no time for untrammeled thought and bible study can be had. The principle design of these meetings is sectarian growth and strength, and the effect is the bondage mentioned [by Paul] so detrimental to the real development of the consecrated children of God, the wheat [from the parable]

    No wonder they let this stuff go out of print, and after blaming Satan for telling Christendom's clergy to burn these books.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    guarded, pointed questions, with prepared answers and no time left for the bible hungry student...Bible study, skilfully directed, so that he may get no new ideas...brief sessions [one hour] more agreeable than bible study...they are led to feel they have performed a duty, and a sacrifice.

    INCREDIBLE

  • luna2
    luna2

    Well, there you go. His one true prophesy, expressed as a critique of organized religion, is what the organization he helped found would become.

    Maybe the Judge read this before bedtime one night, after hoisting a few at dinner, and got an "angelic" vision (New Light!) that instead of this passage describing something negative, it was really informing him of how to best get those pesky independant Bible Students in line with his idea of a "real" religion.

    C.T. Russell had his problems for sure, but if there is a Satan, the "Judge" had to be one of his favored sons.

  • potleg
    potleg

    Russell wouldn't recognize the witnesses as they are today. He had many crackpot ideas but I get the feeling he had more compassion for the flock of his day...Rutherford managed to put an end to that.

  • heathen
    heathen

    Todays dubs are a complete oposite of that statement . Now you are considered spiritually weak if you don't make every meeting and participate . I think what happened was they got a taste of some money and started with the required hours of (fund raising) I mean field service .

  • Mary
    Mary

    I think in one of his other books, Brother Russell said that you don't need organized religion, just believe in God.........if he were alive today, he'd be disfellowshipped for sure.........I mean, he smoked, he celebrated Christmas and birthdays, didn't believe you needed tons of rules and regulations..........he'd roll over in his grave if he saw what the Organization had become.

  • ithinkisee
    ithinkisee

    Does anyone with the Russell Reprints CD have a scan of this page? Man that would be great to have.

    Looks like a good quote for http://quotes.watchtower.ca as well ...

    -ithinkisee

  • heathen
    heathen

    Yah Russell was also a drunk from what I've heard . They were so embarassed by him they retired him to california to live in beth sarim where they had built a mansion to welcome the old prophets back after the resurrection . LOL

  • Rod P
    Rod P

    Put yourself in Russell's shoes. You are studying the Bible with Organized Religion. You start reading the Bible on your own and looking things up in a giant concordance, comparing what these religions are teaching with what scriptural comparisons seem to be revealing. You begin to question and challenge what these religions are preaching and teaching.

    In short, Russell was guilty of Independent Thought.

    Russell breaks away from Organized Religion and sets up his own movement, and then pronounces God's blessings and guidance on himself and his little group of International Bible Students with their little independent chapters.

    In that context, and in that environment at that time, Russell the maverick had to think things on his own. There would have been nothing more important and precious to him that to have that freedom of thought and religion that the founding fathers of the United States of America enshrined in their Constitution.

    Now fast forward to World War !, and to the time when Russell dies. Rutherford takes over the empire, and he does this by vote of the shareholders. He got them to side with him, so as to ensure his successorship to Russell. However, there were quite a few who did not like the way Rutherford did business. Rutherford had these Russelite Loyalists expunged from the Organization, and branded them as the "Wicked and Evil Slave Class". (They continue on to this day as a separate group, and, in fact, have available online all of the books and publications of Charles Taze Russell.)

    Now it was Rutherford who created an Organization of "Group Think", and being organization-minded. He even had a spy system where he would have one brother watching the behavior of another brother, recorded all this in a file dossier, so that he could keep tabs on everyone, and control and weed out the independent types. William Schnell, who spent many years with the JW's wrote a book "Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave", in which he told at great length how this system worked, and how it was used on him and others. Schnell started out in Germany in the Second World War. The German people were great at Organization, and could be easily controlled. So much of what Rutherford instituted was first tried out and experimented with in Germany, and when a good model was established, he put things in place Organization wide. Schnell immigrated to the USA and discovered many of the things that were established in Germany were now being set up in the USA. That's how he discovered how Rutherford really worked.

    Nathan H. Knorr excelled as a good Administrator, a good Organization Man. This served him well over the years, but it also perpetuated and etched in stone the policies and teachings that were imposed on the R & F JW's.

    This all became part and parcel of the kind of behavioral programming and blind, unquestioning loyalty of the JW followers. And that's the way this Cultic Organization operates to this very day. Except now it has become much worse, because the GB at the top is under such attack and vulnerability that it reminds me of Hitler and his coherts in the final days of the War when they hid in this bunker until the bitter end, in a kind of seige mentality. And in the middle of the battle that is all around them, they are calling upon all of the remaining JW's to get out there and fight the good fight for Jehovah and their eternal life. Yours is not to question why; yours is but to do or die! Be a good soldier. And you all better walk in single step, and don't get out of line, or else!

    Yes, Russell would turn over in his grave if he saw what he started has now become.

    Whatever happened to "Jesus Christ is the same today, yesterday and forever"?

    Rod P.

  • potleg
    potleg

    Bottom line: Russell was a crank. the world would have been better off without him.

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