by jula71 23 Replies latest members politics
Property is an investment... how do you calculate future equity?
For example... a lot in Dana Point California in the late 70's could be had for $400US (beach front). That lot today is worth anywhere from 1/2 -1 million dollars.
The government has no business being in "business"... the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.
It's about time to start shooting back...
u/d (of the viva la revolucion class)
U/D here ya go:
The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies
In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
Taking property from a private landowner to use for the common good of the public has always been around and that's okay...you take some land from a few people in order to build a road or whatever...the road is technically government property but it is there for the use of all. It's for the common good of all in the area.
The problem with the debate in Conn (and I think NJ has one too) is that the government will take private property and then turn it over to another private land owner so that a developer or whoever can build a private endeavor like a hotel or resort. That's wrong.
Emminent Domain was bad enough. Having to give up your land and what not for highways, public transit lines, etc. At least that generally benefits 10,000 or more.
But private projects? I think not. Maybe I should find out where the supreme court justices live and propose building a strip mall on their property. After all it will create new jobs. And there is a community benefit in that new marina that could be built on someone's river, lake, ocean front property. NOT!
This is a tacitc of developers to keep the price of evicting someone relatively small. So if you have a $ 350,000 house...they can offer a small premium for it or grind you into a pulp in court grabbing it anyway. Property is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If someone holds out for $ 700,000 in order to move out of their $ 350,000 house so be it. The developer would then have to factor that into his budget. Now he can propose a $ 360,000 or make you spend $ 100,000 in lawyer bills to try and save your own property.
Yeah...they did the same thing in Cali (where real estate is EXPENSIVE)... took a ton of land to build a FOR PROFIT toll road system for a private company.
After 20 years, of profit making at the taxpayer and toll payers expense, the government gets the road back...
What a crock of shiite. It's time to call a spade a spade...stop using reasonable laws to find loop holes and disguise a private for profit venture as a public works project.
It's business... pure and simple.
And there's so many hands in the pot it's pathetic!
u/d (of the accidentally asked for trains instead of brains class)
Did you notice that it was the liberal justices who prevailed on that one?
Saw that, but this goes way beyond party lines. Most "liberals" I know do not agree with this ruling. The ruling cuts to the very core of freedom.
Radical liberals are pretty much against private property rights. But what i thought so interesting in this one is that those justices were so pro-gov't power that they ignored the fact that they were helping big business to make more riches at the expense of the poor in the name of expanding gov't power.
Man has dominated man to his injury...
But nobody said nuthin bout profit!
u/d
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
This ruling is where a non-confidence vote is necessary. How does someone go about doing this in the USA?
