Ok Ok ,
We're splitting hairs here.. don't go Watchtower on me... first off I was not dogmatic doogie in my definition of disease and you left out key words I intentionall inserted "not necessarily dependent" to see if you have a "chip on your shoulder".
Every discussion of alcoholism... like homosexuality... everyone seems so polarized and quickly jumps to one side or the other.. I agree with much of how you "feel" on the subject... I just "feel" differently on some of it. I refuse to argue semantics though as I have a chip on my shoulder toward that!
The big difference is that people with other diseases merit our sympathy and love. Whereas alcoholics piss us off, so we tend to minimize their disease and see them through the eyes of judgmentalism.
Is that a judgement of my viewpoint? So all addictions are "diseases", therefore pedophiles who claim it's "just who they are" .... oh never mind. When was the last time a cancer patient killed a child in a crosswalk with his car due to his disease?
For the record... I've NEVER minimized the problem (disease) or judged any so afflicted. And I've given undeserved sympathy and love to the most abusive of alcoholics (my dad).
It would just be nice to see the pendulum swing the other way for a change. All the oness is put on the "non-afflicted" and the alkees get all the sympathy.....
I think I'll become an alcoholic and thus avoid all of this "judgementalism"... and maybe even get some love and sympathy. Wait can I give myself the disease (as some define it). So I wonder what ISN'T a "disease"?
For the reocrd (semantics again) someone dying of withdrawal... is not the same as the example I used. Any person addicted to any substance can die of withdrawal. I obviously meant someone who was not in that state... with the "disease" in them, not while they're "loaded".
These topics are always way too adversarial (and I know I'm just as much to blame) but the keyboard and screen make it so difficult to convey the proper emotions and feelings involved with many of the statements given on a topic like this.
u/d (of the I'll give it a rest class)