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Does anyone know how members of GB are chosen?
by cyborgVision 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Golf
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MacHislopp
Hello CyborgVision,
Some time ago, I did post quite long researches on the subject
of the ‘ Governing Body’ with many quotes and informations
going back 10, 40, 80, years and even more, to the time of
C.T.Russell.-
If you are interested , for the first part check this link
First-century ' governing body ' Part One
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/58834/1.ashx
and for the second part check this other one:
First Century ' Governing body' Part Two
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/59134/883270/post.ashx#883270
Please, do enjoy you trip. I’sure it will be very informative .
Greetings, J.C. MacHislopp
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frankiespeakin
I would guess all the GB get together and discuss among themselves who they should bring on board to be part of their little authoritaian group they would be interested in loyalty to the organization,, so maybe they get the propective member to bethel run him though a series of loyalty tests and they talk among themselves about which ones passed or failed. All prospective GB members probably never knew they were being screened for the job. The ones that showed loyalty to GB even when it is clear there is something wrong with the GB stanse at the time.
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Elsewhere
Does anyone know how members of GB are chosen?
It's called: The "Good-ol-Boy Club"
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tijkmo
found this on google search under theodore jaracz....most enlightening...
Rumors of Power Play
As yet there is no indication of any form of outright dissent within Bethel or the current leadership, but rumors are that GB member Ted Jaracz is the hard-line boss squelching all reform at present. He is in charge of the organization?s ?storm troopers,? the Service Dept. One dissenter writes:
There is a big philosophical split between the Writing Dept. and the Service Dept. ? liberals versus conservatives. The Writing Dept. (was) headed by GB member Lloyd Barry, who I've heard mixed reviews about. I've been told by people who know him that he's fairly hard-line or fairly soft-line. I suppose it depends on one's point of view. Ted Jaracz heads up the Service Dept. and those who have commented about him are unanimous that he's a hard-line (omitted). The other GB members call him "The Boss" and they aren't just making fun. Barry and Jaracz, and of course their respective departments, have major disagreements about how JWs should behave and how the JW organization should be run. The nasty, hard-line approach of the last 20 years is due almost entirely to Jaracz' dominance.
A couple of weeks ago when I was in New York I took some time and took the Bethel tours. While there I contacted the author of the Creation book. Naturally, I took him to task for the misrepresentations in his book, but was able to keep him talking for 1 1/2 hours. At the end, he told me that he (presumably this reflects the attitude of the Writing Dept. generally) was quite unhappy with how the elders in general don't follow the advice given in The Watchtower. It was surprising that he would admit this but no surprise that the Writing Dept. feels this way. It also shows the great gulf between the liberal and conservative camps, because the elders don't act just on what's in The Watchtower but on what they get from COs and in private letters from the WTS directly to elders. This all comes from the Service Dept. So whenever there are conflicting directions from the Writing Dept. in The Watchtower and from the Service Dept. via the CO and direct letter channels, naturally the elders will follow the privately-given instructions. This is how the elders have ended up with the extreme nastiness and conservatism of Ted Jaracz. The amazing thing is that the Bethel people like this author don't seem to understand this. They seem to think, in the usual JW fashion, that God will fix everything in due time. So this lunatic attitude on the part of the leading WTS "thinkers" filters down to the JW community and sets the tone? In my opinion we're going to see some big cracks open up within 2-3 years after 2000, with increasing unrest until then.
Jaracz, however, is one of the youngest of the GB members. Perhaps before his light fades away his rule will be toppled, much as happened to Knorr in 1975. All it really takes is a change of assignment, a tactic used at Bethel to move people in and out of key positions. Sometimes your greatest danger is from those you work alongside.
had a chat with someone else today who has high up contacts in bethel and who said that gb know elder arrangement isnt working esp judicially but dont know what to do about it....maybe they should try praying for holy spirit...always worked for me ...not
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cyborgVision
Wow tijkmo, where did you get that? this gets better and better. How can they live with themselves?
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Golf
Power struggles always exist, somebody always wants to be driving the bus.
Why do people stay within this org? I've met people in my community who committ petty crime just to be housed in a jail for the winter,its' free room and board.
If you can tolerate jailed conditions, what can I say, except, not much of a life.
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tijkmo
cyborg...i went to search at top of page then google search then typed in theodeore jaracz..be sure to tick web box then the first site listed is..governing body getting old..tis by randy watters..its in there
further down the 1st page is a site from silent lambs which makes the claim...'i was raped by t.jaracz' which is interesting too
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Country_Woman
No matter how they choose, they are not going to tell the world with grey or white smoke....
It ain't actual yet is'nt ? nobody died their ?
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of topic: there is a remarkable analogy between the Governing Body and the Catholic Church.
Their leaders are (most) from own "soil" : American or Italian
The Catholic Church with an exception of 2 in a row from nr. 220 - 266: The first pope was a Hebrew: Peter, after him: Greek-French-Roman until:
nr. 220: Pope Adranius VI (1522-1523) Dutch
nr. 266: Pope John Paul II (1978-2005) Polish
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ozziepost
Here's a provocative (possibly) question about Judas Iscariot.
Was he replaced by Jesus or by men? Sure they used lots which was an "acceptable" way of doing things then, but was Matthias God's choice? I ask that because you never about him again, yet Jesus' choice of Paul resulted in the expansion and blossoming of chritianity as a world religion.
So.......
OK, I'm naughty - this is off-topic.