::: Yes the "facts" show change- it's just how far that change goes that is open to debate.
:: Only in creationist circles. There's no debate in scientific circles
: That is not true. My best friend from high school is a staunch evolutionist and teaches at the university in Boulder- and it is an endlessly debated topic.
Among real evolutionary biologists, neither the fact of change through time nor the idea that descent with modification has produced all living things (i.e., that change is unlimited) is debated.
Please give details of what you think is being debated. In my experience, many former JWs don't have nearly enough background to properly understand what's being debated.
: This is what makes it truly a "theory" in the truest sense of the word.
You still haven't really understood the scientific sense in which the word is used. Please do read my essay on this: http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/ce09.htm
: Gravity isn't debated like this.
Gravity is indeed debated by the "creationist" equivalent of ignorant critics, such as Flat-Earthers.
::: Because these terms mean different things to different people and "schools of thought". There is by no means a concensus among believers on these subjects.
:: You're a master of understatement.
: Is that a slam or a compliment?
Neither. It's just a statement. Various believers have extremely widely varying views on "these subjects", ranging from young-earth creationists to any number of varieties of old-earth creationists. Get hold of Ronald Numbers' book The Creationists for a look-see.
: Either way I'm not really sure what to make of it.
I was like you, in this, for awhile, until I educated myself well beyond my JW preconceptions.
: I certainly don't want to hinder these discussions. If I'm being asinine please give constructive criticizm and I'll listen. The implication is that I've massively "understated" many times on this forum.
My suggestion is that you do a lot of reading on your own. There are tons of resources. You can always start by reading my essay on the JW Creation book; check the website at the link I gave you above. Read the talkorigins.org website to get a good idea of what's being debated among creationists and scientists. Subscribe to the Usenet group talk.origins to watch or participate in live debates. See who presents the better arguments.
: As far as I'm concerned neither side has truly convinced me of their point of view and all of this "emperical" evidence I hear referenced by both sides is woefully unconvincing.
I suspect that, for you, it's mostly a matter of not knowing the details. Until you do a lot of research, you just will not understand how much evidence there is in favor of evolution.
: That's why there are two camps of thought and a LOT of people in between who don't see either view as being all that solid, or frankly all that relevant.
I disagree. From many years of looking at the debates, it's evident to me that the ONLY reason people question evolution is because of religious prejudices. Religious people might claim that their objections have nothing to do with religion, but I've seen that they're either lying or fooling themselves.