teejay, teejay, teejay..........
Hmmm. xenawarrior and bickerchic speaking with one mind. Wow. Don't believe I've ever seen *that* before!!
Yeah like you're anyone to know anything about mine and xw's relationship. When might I ask have you ever seen us be disagreeable on this board or any other board? I see it's teejay doing what teejay does best, blowing smoke!
That said, while I accept your position that y'all feel it's sometimes acceptable to be intolerant, it appears that you two ladies (entirely, woefully, pitifully) missed the essential point of what we're talking about.
I feel very strongly that it is acceptable to be intolerant, get that straight right now! I do not for instance tolerate evil of any kind, nor do I accept the behavior of those who wish to spread evil. Now I ask teejay in view of your comparisons to the two boards just where do you fit into THAT picture?
The point of this discussion is to illustrate that, by and large, a group that I once found camaraderie with have taken upon themselves to denounce me for exercising a ~~~~~~~ to post at a place they once posted but now despise. Can you not see how that is analogous to ex-JWs denouncing people (loyal JWs) who in many ways resemble the person they themselves once were?
teejay! Buy a clue! My perception of you is that you have always played both ends against the middle. At some point even those who are just like you get tired of it. If you don't stand for something you stand for nothing, both ends get weighed down and the middle eventually caves in. Which is what I see is happening there to you teejay.
It's not about ex-JW's verses JW's. People grow and people change, if you don't you simply aren't maturing and are staying stuck in a rut of your own making.
You question me:
but weren't you bikerchic once like me ? a loyal JW? How hypocritical, not to mention judgmental and intolerant, it would be if you or I now ridiculed a loyal JW who happened upon JWD. Don't you think so?
Once like you, I would have to say no, never......loyal to the JW's hook line and sinker, NO that was not me at all. I simply went through the motions it wasn't in my heart. Judgmental, no that is not me at all I never felt like many JW's who would make the comment at the door of the householder who said they didn't want anything to do with us or our message...."Old goat, they'll be destroyed at Armageddon." I didn't like judging people so harshly, I felt it was God's choice not mine.
On a personal note I will judge those individuals who have directly harmed me or my family/friends. IMHO people cannot act badly and not reap what they sow at least from me. Now as far as intolerant, I've always as I've said earlier been intolerant of evil, bad and those people who behave in such ways. I quit a long time ago believing what people said they are but watched how they behaved, actions do speak louder than words. Which is why I found it so easy when it finally got through my thick skull (years of believing the Elders were right no matter what) to walk away from the entire JW religion, I saw first hand the hypocrisy of the Elders.
Now as far as me ridiculing a loyal JW who would post here, I probably have ridiculed their beliefs not the individual at least I hope not.
While we might despise the particulars of what they believe, wouldn't/shouldn't we at least understand their mindset... even empathize with them, understanding perhaps better than most why the JW believes, speaks, and acts as they do?
While I understand that argument and find no fault with it what I don't understand is your flip-flopping on the topic. You are comparing apples to oranges IMHO.
That's what we're speaking of here. Not so much what or where something is said, but an understanding and, more importantly, an ACCEPTANCE of why it's said.
Well make up your mind teejay
which is it? Like I said you play both ends........and so it goes.