2300 evenings and mornings...say WHAT??????

coult9056

Does anyone really believe the JayDub fulfillment of the 2300 evenings and mornings from Daniel 8:14? It's in the bookstudy book, and was mentioned in the January 15, 2001 Watchtower. Surely they don't really expect the flock to believe that a Bible prophecy was fulfilled by a talk at a district convention. I really wonder how many hands went up when the study question was asked at the bookstudy. Did anyone have the JW patriotism enough to answer?

VeniceIT

I think according to the new Daniel book you get to take your pic of 2 choices of when it begins and ends, it's not real deffinate hahahaha

Ven

"It is easier to fight for ones principles the to live up to them"--Alfred Adler

TR

I hate to deviate from the subject at hand, but NICE DOO, VEN!

TR

"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every
form of tyranny over the mind of man." --Thomas Jefferson*

ladonna

I have tried to make sense of their new Daniel book.....to no avail!!!

Not only the 2300 evenings and days, but their direct associations they make with themselves and Hitler's persecution....

Did anyone recognize the pic that they used for Daniel???? Sure looks a lot like Russell to me......

BTW....Ven....where is your old pic???? Put it back

Ana

Norm

“Flickering light”

Have you ever considered this excellent example of how the «light flashes» in Brooklyn? No? Then let us look at the story about the «2,300 evening’s and morning’s» Did you know that «Jehovah» makes his official announcements in the Watchtower magazine? You didn’t? Well take a look at this:

“This Resolution was adopted by congregations of Jehovah’s witnesses throughout the earth. The announcement in the Watchtower magazine of October 15, 1932, at the end of 2,300 evenings and mornings was the official notification made by Jehovah through his visible channel of communication that his sanctuary of anointed “living stones” had been cleansed, vindicated and justified.” Watchtower, October 1. 1959, page 601-2.

It is indeed nice to know that «Jehovah» has shown such great interest in us that he’s even printing his own magazine in which he publish his «official notifications» for our benefit. Look how thorough «Jehovah» explains it all in his magazine:

«In 1918 the "little horn" of Daniel 8:9, the Anglo-American dual world power, had cast down the place of this spiritual sanctuary, and in 1926 it together with other nations committed the "transgression that makes desolate" in connection with the League of Nations. This marked the beginning of the count of the 2,300 "evenings and mornings" mentioned in Daniel 8:14, at the end of which period of time Jehovah's sanctuary was to be restored to its rightful state. This period of six years four months and twenty days ended on October 15, 1932, when "The Watchtower," the official journal of the sanctuary class, published the evidence that the sanctuary class on earth had been cleansed and the sanctuary restored to its rightful state by the abolition from the congregations of Jehovah's witnesses of the democratically elected "elders" and by the theocratic appointment of service directors to the congregations for preaching the Kingdom good news.»
Watchtower, October 1. 1959, page 632.
«If the Bible rule for counting prophetic time is applied as already set out, a prophetic year of 360 days being taken as the basic unit, 2,300 evenings and mornings would amount to six years four months and twenty days, each day being composed of an evening and a morning. (Gen. 1:5, 8, 13, 19, 23, 31) Count now from the beginning of this International Convention of London on May 25, 1926, and we shall find that the 2,300 days of evenings and mornings bring us to October 15, 1932.»
Watchtower, October 1. 1959, page 600.

But alas, as usual with the «official notifications» and «promises» «Jehovah» makes in the Watchtower or Awake! Magazines, sooner or later they have to be revoked. «Jehovah» is indeed very shoddy, and can’t seem to make up his mind about even the simplest matters. Anyway, he apparently got his wires crossed over when the 2,300 evenings and mornings started. As you have noticed above he clearly stated in his «official notification» that they started in May 25, 1926 and ended in October 15, 1932. Did they? Apparently not!

“What Its "Right Condition" Means for Us Today
When did those 2,300 evenings and mornings begin? By knowing this we can find out when they end and thus when Jehovah’s “holy place” is “brought into its right condition,” or, “shall be restored to its rightful state” (Revised Standard Version). If Jehovah’s “holy place” is “brought” or “restored” to what it should be, then we should count the days from the time when previously it was in the “right condition” from Jehovah’s viewpoint. At the earliest this was on June 1, 1938, when the official magazine of Jehovah’s anointed remnant of underpriests at His sanctuary, namely, The Watchtower, published Part One of the article entitled “Organization,” so as to state more fully the theocratic requirements for it.”
Watchtower, December 1. 1971, page 724.
“If we thus count from the critical period when theocratic organization was being more fully installed in the congregations of Jehovah's witnesses, when did the 2,300 days end?” Watchtower, December 1. 1971, page 724.
«What, then, does all that combination of significant events at the critical time indicate? Apparently this: that Jehovah's "sanctuary" or "holy place" was "brought into its right condition" on time, at the end of the 2,300 evenings and mornings, in early autumn (October 8-22) of the year 1944.»
Watchtower, December 1. 1971, page 727.

As you clearly see from the above quotes the «2,300 evenings and mornings» now suddenly started on June 1, 1938 - six years after the time «Jehovah» clearly stated in his «official notification». Now they ended in October 8-22, 1944, not in October 15, 1932! Another embarrassing fact is that this change wasn’t noticed by anyone, until the end of 1971. When «Jehovah» issued his «official notification» in 1932, he didn’t notice the blunder until his «official» magazine» was issued in December 1971, some 39 years later! His own declared «truth» who had been dished out as «food in due time» for 39 years appeared to have been wrong all the time. Hey, just a thought, maybe it isn’t Jehovah who has issued these two conflicting statements? Who then dares to change or revise «Jehovah’s official notification»?

There are many more amazing and hilarious examples of the flickering «light» from «Jehovah’s Official channel» in Brooklyn. It is really beyond me how anyone can regard this organization as “Jehovah’s” when it is so painfully obvious that they don’t have half a clue about the 2300 evenings and mornings, and not about anything else for that matter.

Norm.

Had Enough

Hello Norm:

Amazing how God's "official notification" changed without even any reference made to the change. [8>]

I really appreciate these little tidbits of proof of their twisting things to suit their ideas. I love seeing it in black and white to compare. Who can argue with the plain facts in front of your face?

I just wonder though why they didn't apply the "a day for a year" factor in this calculation? It was applied in the the "70 weeks (490 days)" prophecy, and "7 times (2520 days)" prophecy, but the "3 1/2 times (1,260 days)" prophecy was just days not years.

I lapped this stuff up when I was an active JW. It meant so much to me to see all these prophecies fulfilled by "our only organiztion 'seeing' the truth of these prophecies".

You say:

There are many more amazing and hilarious examples of the flickering «light» from «Jehovah’s Official channel» in Brooklyn.

I'd love to see a whole list of this flickering «light» if you or anyone has put one together on a site somewhere???, as I don't have access to all these old books yet. I love this stuff!!!

Thanks for the info.

Had Enough

Norm

Hi there Had Enough,

You said:

Who can argue with the plain facts in front of your face?

Any "true believer" can argue with anything. Particularly facts. True Believers don't accepts facts. Make beleive fantasies and emotions are far more real than facts. I mean they do "BELIEVE" it so then it has to be TRUE! Right?

Norm

ozziepost

Do you think the 'light of truth' has got distorted 'cos of all the pollution?

Oh well, forgive that, it's getting late here!

Cheers,
Ozzie

"So often, the unpolished
the disjointed
Is on its way to the truth
Ahead of the finished
the polished."
Ken Walsh, Sometimes I Weep

You Know

It is not reasonable. The problem the brothers have is that the book of Daniel has not been unsealed yet. So all they can do presently is "rove about" in the book and try to figure it out. The thing is though that when Jesus arrives with his angels to clean house once and for all, then the angels will remove not only PERSONS doing lawlessness, but also "all THINGS causing stumbling." The prophetic parable mentions both persons and things. So, the things causing stumbling are these kinds of unreasonable things over which people like yourself stumble. That's why though Jesus said 'happy is he who has not stumbled over me.' / You Know

jayhawk1

Dear You Know,
Then why does the Society publish something as fact, when they do not know. I was once a JW, but I got out because of this very thing. And also I got out because of their shunning me for growing a beard with good reason. Read my experience I just posted it.
CULTS SUCK

2300 evenings and mornings...say WHAT??????

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