"Dad blames church for death of teen" (Calgary Herald)

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  • morty
    morty

    Hey Beans,

    Did you guys drink all kinds of "moo Juice" as well???

    You have to admit, Frank put on a hell of a barn dance eh??? I just wonder now, what the bro's at head quaters thought of those parties.....and I do recall as well swinging from tires onto bales of hay and also sneeking everyones booze....actually come to think about it, I never really had to sneek it, it was always handed right to me from brother such and such .....

    It use to take us days to get ready for that barn dance.....I lived on a Mottreal farm as my dad worked for Frank for many years....The dance was one thing that I looked forward to every year....

  • Quotes
    Quotes

    mortons68 said:

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    Quotes...did you go to the Mottreals barn dances?? I went to many of those parties..
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    Yup, I went to a couple! One of the few "normal" memories of I have of JW social events.

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    Morton!!!! I am shocked!!! You were handed booze at a JW affair????

    Here I have been told all thses years" OUR folks didnt do those kind of things"> encourage others to drink!!!

    I must have been in the wrong congregations.... NOBODY EVER DID WRONG IN OURS!!!!!

    ( you swallowed every other lie- I wonder if you will swallow this one ) LOL

    Hope your fine Mort....

  • JT
    JT

    And they are "blanket" claims. While half of them are easily proved by presenting the WTS' own literature, how does he intend to "prove" "forcing its members to work in slavery...?" In fact, they are volunteers. "...turned out on the streets when old..." is a bit of a stretch without examples, and "deaths of tens of thousands..." is hyperbole unless you have a list of names.

    Thus, when the JW spokesman denied "blanket claims" he appears (I said appears) to have the high moral ground. The courts deal in facts and demand proof. If you're going to fight this fight, you have to be on solid ground. If not, you lose, and a "loss" sets the "movement" back. Not only that, but dubs who read this stuff will point out the flaws and use that as an excuse to dismiss the rest.

    I don't want to be critical, but this kind of overkill has to be moderated, at least when making public pronouncements, before the media and the masses will really listen.

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    i agreee, by focusing on so many NONISSUE related to his daughters health, it becomes very easy to get lost in the shuffle-

    blanket statements make good sound bites and get the media, but in a court of law where each issue is taken apart one at a time- it is very difficult

    the issue of "Slavery" is a legal and practical mistake- the court can work with phyical restraint in terms of making someone work without pay

    but for a person to volunteer and not be paid is very difficult to fit the legal definition of slavery-

    he should focus on one issue and work that to death, but to be all over the board only weakens his case in my exp

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