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I was reading a little more on the subject (not that I want to practice this, but I find it fascinating).
From what I can see so far, Domestic Discipline seems to have some ties with light S&M and even helps some women feel more secure.
It also seems to have an erotic side for some people (many web sites sell DD "stories" - see http://www.spanking-jack.com/stories.html).
indoubt
I don't FRIGGIN THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If my dh EVER thought he could "discipline" me, I'd get Cuban all over his butt so fast his head would spin...
This is idiotic...no MAN has the "right" to "discipline" a woman...What are we going back to? Women too stupid to do anything but cook and breed?
TB (who's been stewing about this since she read it at work)
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The domestic discipline movement that encourages wife spanking is condoned and supported by some religions. We believe that giving husbands this type of authority in a marriage can lead to spousal abuse and can destroy the self -esteem of the person being spanked.
WHAT IS DOMESTIC DISCIPLINE?
The proponents of this life style state:
Our research in looking at websites supporting this practice has led us to believe that:
Those who practice domestic discipline often mention some scripture texts that call a woman to be submissive to her husband. However, there are many who follow this belief without beating their wives into submission. Spanking a wife as a means of correction or punishment is a control issue and is potentially abusive.
The United Baptist Convention of the Atlantic Provinces has written a document entitled, "Harmony in the Home" in which they state, The issue of headship, which is sometimes stressed and promoted on the basis of this passage of Scripture, is a source of confusion unless one understands that the Greek word which is translated "head" in verse 23 means "source" (as in head water) rather than denoting authority. Women are to submit to their husbands; husbands are to submit to their wives out of reverence for Christ. The difficulty with the traditional view of headship is that it has been misused to keep women subservient and in some cases to justify the emotional and/or physical abuse of women within the couple relationship. This is far from mutual submission and is not as God intended for the couple relationship. Mutual submission means that a husband and wife care about each other, respect each other, and allow each other to think, feel, and choose as persons in their own right. There are not attempts to dominate and control. With mutual submission there is respect and love, as each one regards the other's needs.
The chaplain for the metro-Detroit Retrouvaille, Rev. Al Blonigen, writes, I do not believe that there is one husband who is so perfect that he would be justified to use that kind of authority (spanking). Besides, nowhere in Scripture did Jesus use physical pain on anyone. And wives who accept such discipline - much less to desire it - cannot be mature adults. Such a desire indicates to me that they are suffering from codependancy. They need counseling, not spanking.
Why do adult women agree to this type of punishment? Some believe it is because of guilt over past sexual behavior, or because they believe that God through the scriptures has deemed that this is the role of a husband. It is our hope than any woman in such a marriage seeks counseling so that they can make an informed, rational decision about their marriage relationship.
The number of battered women in the United States annually is between 2 and 4 million. It is estimated that at least 25% to 30% of American women are at risk of domestic violence during their lifetime. Such abuse is also devastating to their children who often feel helplessness and blame along with increased anxieties, more aggressiveness, and behaviorial problems.
When there is an attack on a person's self esteem, or when one partner becomes dominant in the relationship, the marriage usually ends. Using words like punishment when relating to a spouse sets a couple up to be "feet and a doormat." The wife turns into a doormat which is only good for wiping feet on. We believe that these marriages are doomed to have problems. Some day she will have had enough.
If you are a woman who is feeling abused by domestic discipline, or if you are a man confused about his role as a husband, join us at the Marriage Forum to talk about this issue with others.
BTW, this is just sick and wrong. If you are into BDSM, call it what it is, don't look for supposed divine instruction to try to cover hypocrosy, just call it what it is.
It looks like this could just be an excuse for abusive men to try to make their behaviour out to be divinely inspired. What a crock.
Therapy is good for the woman in this situation, and the man just flat out needs to be taken care of by the criminal justice system.
Now...... settle down, you S&Mers out there, the lifestyle is totally different than what is portrayed here and I am aware of it. I believe to each their own, there are safeguards built in to the game or the lifestyle, and it is consensual. And, in fact the dominate can be of either sex. This is NOT what we are talking about with domestic discipline. They may be getting off on it, but there is more to it than that and it is evil twisted and wrong. I have friends who are into S&M, so I don't want anyone to think I'm getting the two things confused. (don't understand it but love my friends anyway!)
Sherry
It looks like this could just be an excuse for abusive men to try to make their behaviour out to be divinely inspired. What a crock.
This makes me think of the WTBTS. Maybe they don't advocate wife beating but they sure use the Bible as an excuse for psychological abuse, domination and mind control of women.
What disturbs me is who actually has the time to look up this garbage.
If some wife wants a good spanking when her hubby gets home, I say let them give'er.
I suppose there's a support group for lesbian albino left-handed midgets out there too; but I don't really care to tell you the truth.
Sad.
I agree with Gretchen:
this is just sick and wrong.
Sad.
Special K
You women are to be treated like crap unless you do what the penis of the household tells you to because without this penis you are stupid and cannot think for yourself or make you-re own decisions
KLS, is this what women mean when they say their husband's being a real dick?
