CANADIANS ONLY

by josephus 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • josephus
    josephus

    Hi all

    ive been threatening to move back to canada for years now. and i finally picked a date of next year with me and the (then) new wife.

    however im getting a lot of talk from people who have been outtheir recently, and still live their that its very hard.

    ive seen houses for sale at about 60 percent of northern ireland prices and jobs seen available and pretty well paid.

    but im hearing from others that you cant afford cardboard boxes in toronto or vancouver where i want to go. and that healthcareis crap. with no government help. ive heard car insuranse is high too. and crime is bad.

    i dont know if this is true (i hope not) but please help me with honest answers.

    so heres what i want to know. if i had 80.000 dollars to bring and was able to earn tradesmans wages, say 250.00 a day. would i be able to set up happily in canada ?

    thanks

    josephus

    ps yes im a citizen

  • Scully
    Scully
    80.000 dollars to bring and was able to earn tradesmans wages, say 250.00 a day. would i be able to set up happily in canada

    It sounds like you'd be able to manage just fine, although you probably wouldn't be able to get a mortgage to buy a house right off the bat if you've been out of the country for several years. Toronto and Vancouver are two of the highest priced areas for real-estate in the country, so bear that in mind and perhaps look into living outside the metropolitan areas for better prices on housing and lower property taxes.

    If Mrs. Josephus can get landed immigrant status (or if she's a citizen) she'll be able to work too.

    I wish there were more people like you coming to live in Canada.

    Love, Scully

  • Celtic
    Celtic

    Could I slip in too?

  • neverthere
    neverthere

    Hi there, my hubby and I live in Toronto and he is a Tradesman (an electrician). You could buy a house with that much down but I don't know if you have to wait as you have been out of the country for some time. I like Toronto but then again there is crime (but isn't it everywhere now!) and to be honest hubby and I are thinking seriously about moving out of Toronto (we want a bigger house, etc).

    If you drive you could move just outside Toronto, into one of the Suburbs (though not Scarborough PLEASE).

    If you check out www.thestar.com you should be able to check out jobs and housing prices etc.

    What kind of Trade are you in, depending on what it is perhaps I might be able to send you links to the web sites for them here in Toronto if you want to move out this way.

    Diana

  • Mary
    Mary

    Hi Josephus:

    Unless you're a terrorist or someone claiming Refugee Status, you probably won't be able to get back in as that's all we seem to be letting in these days. $80,000 wouldn't buy you a gingerbread house in either Toronto or Vancouver these days---the prices are unbelievable.

    The health care system is a shadow of it's former self, thanks to the assholes in charge, but it's still not too too bad, as long as you don't have a terminal illness (which, in that case, they'll still pay for you to go to the States if necessary). Car insurance is insanely high and crime is of course bad in the big cities like it is everywhere. That's probably because our poor cops get to carry pepper spray instead of guns when they've got 5 drugs dealers, (who are all armed with semi-automatic rifles), down some back alley.

    The worse thing though are the winters........is it just me or are they getting longer and longer?? Spring used to come in April years ago; now it doesn't seem to warm up until June.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I am a little more optomistic than Mary. Out west, we are still in a building boom, lots of demand for the trades. If you can live with the winters, Canada is a great place to live.

    http://www.calgaryeconomicdevelopment.com/main/default.asp

    Calgary's house prices are pretty high to my eyes, though:

    http://www.attfield.com/hotlist03_h.htm

    Edmonton might be a little cheaper:

    http://www.thehome-team.ca/test.html

    A cost of living report:

    http://www.alberta-canada.com/statpub/pdf/news_costLiving04.pdf

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Josephus,

    It is true that many parts of Canada are shadow of their former self. Canada is in some ways a socialist state masquerading as a democracy and its grey-green political mentality is not healthy for the nation. The past twenty years have seen an economic regression in real terms, that is, in spending terms in peoples pockets and there is much more poverty here now than there was twenty-five years ago. Arguably, this is true of most Western nations, but Canada once touted as number one on the United Nations scale of the 'best' places to live, is slipping rapidly.

    In the area where there are jobs, $80,000 will buy you nothing, in fact in Vancouver that would just about make a 20% downpayment on a 900 sq ft apartment. In the areas where jobs are scarce, you could buy a one-bedroomed apartment outright with that sort of cash.

    The health care system is pretty grim at the moment and is in a state of flux, but compared to the US system it is much fairer. Everybody, at least in theory, is offered the same standard of treatment for an across the Board payment of about $50.00 per month ( a complusary payment ). What it needs is a politician with a little flair and foresight to light a fire underneath the passive Canadian character, but from what I can see, that is not due to happen yet. Alberta seems to be the Province that is growing fastest at the moment and they are rebelling against the national Health Care Program. I know that the term 'rebel' and 'Canadian' seem to be in opposition, but who knows!

    Having said that, I have been to Belfast a number of times, and my preference for habitation would always be for Canada. It certainly has some of the most stunning scenery, especially on the East and West Coast's that you are likely to find anywhere in the world and you are much less likely to be beaten up for having the wrong surname.

    Best regards - HS

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    Canada is a large and diverse country. You will even find diverse housing markets within most urban areas. I live in Regina (pop 200,000). You can buy a decent 3 bedroom home in a good neighborhood for $120,000, and something very nice for $150,000. There is currently a shortage of tradespeople here.

    According to the United Nations, Canada regularly scores the highest rating (or in some years, near the highest rating) for livabililty of any country in the world. Health care is pretty good and is free. Education is also pretty good and free.

    Come on down. And the cold isn't so bad - it's a dry cold.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Hillary, respectfully, Westerners are different from the pantywaists down east. Unfortunately, frustratingly, our federal governments are voted in before the ink is dry in Manitoba. Quoted from:

    Mavericks: An Incorrigible History of AlbertaAritha Van Herk

    Alberta is a province that most Canadians simply don't understand, the province most Canadians love to hate. It is regarded as a land of reckless, redneck and ignorant individualists. But it is also the province where the Famous Five fought the landmark Person's Case, giving Canadian women the same status as men in the eyes of the law, a province that truly believes in free speech. Albertans tolerate in their midst people whose extreme views on any manner of subjects would make them outcasts elsewhere. And Albertans practice the creed of western neighbourliness, giving assiduously to charity and always lending a hand where help is needed. They are a tough, tender bunch, squinting into the wind of determined difference.

    If you're an Albertan, you'll recognize yourself and your home in this book. If you're not an Albertan, this book will be an education for you. Mavericks will open your eyes to the real Alberta, as she was and is.

  • dorothy
    dorothy

    You're out and you want back IN??? Well why don't you go back to being and JW too!

    Just kidding. I've thought of leaving but am too scared to live without health care, no matter how basic it's becoming.

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