Depressed

by Descender 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • Descender
    Descender

    Well, thanks for the advice. It's strange that I haven't even thought of going to the doctor for depression. It just always seemed like something that would never happen to me. I went to that site Shamus and took three different online tests, one from the mayo clinic. According to those tests, I'm clinically depressed, so I will try to make an appointment to see my doctor tomorrow. Maybe I can get a definitive answer there.

    Wierd thing is, my wife still calls me a tortures me everyday. She just got out of class and called me about 10 minutes ago and told me about her day and how she was going out with a university football player tomorrow night and told me how great this guy is that she met on a trip last week for the 15th time. I think she's trying to kill me. I know, I know, if you're a doormat, you'll get walked on. And that's what I am. I'm an idiot I guess.

  • shamus
    shamus

    What I suggest is if you have questions, go to the message board at the above link and ask there. It is a great support community.

    You may find some people's answers here, while well meaning, useless and some downright wrong (none of the above posters, btw on this thread).

    Be careful of "advice" that you recieve and go see your doctor. If you need help talking to your doctor or are scared to, PM me or go to the online community noted and get some advice and alleviate your fears.

  • Winston Smith :>D
    Winston Smith :>D

    He bud, I feel for ya. You are going through something that is absolutely heartwrenching. It seems your [x]-wife enjoys making you miserable to make her feel better about yourself.

    you got mail

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    What a bitch.. You don't deserve to have her treating you like that. Maybe you should hang up on her when she treats you like that..

    I'm sorry.. I don't normally call a woman that.. but she really makes me upset how she is treating you

  • Sentinel
    Sentinel

    (((Descender))), I'm so very sorry you are so overwhelmed with the circumstances in your marriage, etc. Your mom means well, but is just adding to your stress.

    I don't know what happened in your marriage--but your wife sounds awfully angry towards you. It is most hateful of her to compare her new lover to her husband. Please don't take her seriously. She is attempting to hurt you deeply.

    Depression can come and go, but your depression seems to have lasted way too long, and you truly need to go to a good doctor and not only get some medication, but some good counseling as well. Please don't wait to do this. Obviously your wife is commiting adultery, so you do have the upper hand. You can go ahead and file for divorce. I know this sounds harsh, but better sooner than later, and better you, than your "wife". Know your legal rights, and although these matters are extremely emotion, try to make good choices for yourself. Protect yourself.

    Keep us posted here and remember, you aren't alone. Many of us have suffered similarly and we have survived. It may appear to be very dark in your heart now, but believe me, the sun will come out again. You will be alright.

    Take care,

    Karen/Sentinel

  • FMZ
    FMZ

    Hey mate. I am relatively new to this board, and have been outta the b0rg for a year now, but I have only just told my parents back in England that I'm out, so I have lost much also. I just wanted to drop you a message and offer any help I can give. I have been a manic depressive for as long as I remember. I only just got on my depression medication (Zoloft) and they have doubled my dosage already to 100mg.

    I was pretty much the same as you, not even thinking about going to a doc. I always convinced myself that I would be "giving in" if I took meds, and that it would just show even more how weak I am. Just recently though, I finally decided that since it is a chemical imbalance, then (just like a headache) meds would be the best thing for it. Although I feel a little better in myself, there is still much mental work to be done.

    Studies have shown that a combination of therapy and meds is best. For your case, I think this would be a good idea. The therapy will help a LOT with what you are going through with your wife etc. The meds will help you counteract the physical effects of depression, i.e. lack of energy / motivation etc.

    Something that helped me, and this may not be recommended for everyone, is confronting my depression aggressively. Sure, I prayed, I took my meds, but all that only managed to help me get through the day. What sometimes helps a little though, is finding the heaviest, most dark, macabre music I have and laying down on the floor listening to it. Many people think that all heavy music is Satanic, this is bunk. Although there is much music that does have Satanic undertones, there is even more that sings about love, romance, death, etc., just be sure to read the lyrics before trying this (a few bands I recommend: Forest of Shadows, Nile, Type-O-Negative). Allow the sound of the music to take over you, feel the pain in it, cry if you feel like it. I almost use this as a form of meditation to confront my demons, and get thoughts and feelings over with.

    If heavy music does nothing for you (understandable), then just meditate alone. Don't be put off by the stereotypical monk sat cross legged on top of a mountain... Just lay on your bed, relax all your muscles, then close your eyes and breathe deeply. Let your thoughts and feelings flow. Don't think about your problems, but just be a spectator to your thoughts, let them come and go. After a few sessions you will get better. Often after meditating like this, I will feel as refreshed as if I had slept for hours, and I will be mentally more alert and level headed. If you would like more info on this, check out the links section on my new web-site www.your-reality.com , the link is on the left. There are links to a few meditation sites there.

    One of the biggest hurdles for me, was that being depressed caused me to feel that I deserved it somehow, because I didn't have the mental strength to overcome it by myself. This, again, was a big reason for me not wanting to get meds. Just keep in mind it is a chemical imbalance. Either you don't produce enough serotonin, or your brain absorbs too much of it to be of use. SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) are usually helpful in either case.

    Just as depression is a downward spiral, getting out of depression is like an upward spiral. As you take your meds (and get counselling), you feel better able to cope with your problems, and when you can cope with your problems, you feel less depressed, which gives you more confidence in approaching the world, and when you have more confidence, you can (again) tackle your problems better. Just remember though... meds only build this staircase. YOU must climb it.

    Well, I didnt mean this to be such a ramble, but just writing this has helped me a little, as I sincerely hope it helps you. If you ever need anything mate, let me know. You can contact me at [email protected] . Also, I am on MSN Messenger as [email protected] .

    And now everyone on the board probably thinks I am a depressive, Satanic-music-listening, thinks-hes-a-doctor, meditating, know-it-all weirdo... I'm out.

    FMZ

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    My personal experience is that you need to work on your social circle.

    I had it easy; I went from the Dubs and an unhappy marriage straight to College and my own place. I worked in clubs and bars. I learnt the hardway how to make friends and how to CHOOSE friends, cause at first ANYONE will do as a friend, believe you me.

    You might have some of these options locked out by the neccesity of making a living, but you can always do an evening class in something or take up a social hobby, like latin dancing or something.

    Once you have friends you will feel less lonely.

    Also, professionals are called that for a reason; speak to one.

    Jeff T, what ARE the four questions that Byron Kaite refers to?

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    Decsender and FMZ first of all welcome to JWD, its great that you have come forward to share your pain and depression. I too suffer from Bi-Polar effects. I take 300 milligrams of Effexor, this medication has been a live safer. I was on Prozac for many years, however with Prozac the higher the does you MAY experience neurological symtoms similar to MS. I was one of a few patients doctors were baffled by the effect Prozac had on me because as a rule it doesn't effect most people that way. But I was on the highest dosage possible. So a doctor or a specialis t would probably have to work with you and your kind of depression to see what drug suits you.
    Don't give up, on the drug senerio as I have been on different seritonin uptakers. So it may take a few months to determine which drug best suits your need and the only way that can be determined is by see a therapist or psychiartist, who specialize in the despensing of the right medicine for you.

    I am sorry Decender that your wife is playing games with you. It is not very nice of her, she is being terribly cruel.

    And you say your mom sees you almost daily and she is not making it easy for you and her. Because she could get disfellowshipped for talking to you about spiritaul matters. its okay if she doesn't expound scripture. but if it found out that she is she could as I said be reprimanded.

    I feel for you and your pain. I know the road you are taking as I have travelled it many times. I spent seven long years with two therapist who showed me that I am not in the wrong, I am not responsible for the way people feel about me, it is their problem not yours. So don't shoulder that burden on your heart and mind. I found that meeting people and volunteering in the hospital or visiting others that were ill was very uplifting to me and my mental and emotional help

    Don't despair or ever give up on your self, you have much to give. In the years of therapy doctors worked with different medications until they hit the right one but I don't think it would take that long for most as I am an enigma. At least what my doctors use to tell me. So please don't loss your sense of humour or drive for life. I see that the music you listen to is not my cup of tea as they say, how ever I feel revitalized after a hot buble bath a glass of my favourite wine and listening of Pachebel.

    So I am hoping all goes well you both and may you both have peace and once again my sincerest welcome to JWD forum, I hope to see more postings from you both and until then

    I give you both hugs and kisses .

    With All My Love

    Orangefatcat

    OrangeCat 15Fat

    PS don't let anyone ever put you down. OFC


  • cyber-sista
    cyber-sista

    Hey Des,

    Your dealing with a lot. We get depressed when depressing things happen in our lives. Try and find a good therapist--it can do you a world of good--not just a pill pusher, but someone who will help you process the emotional distress. Sometimes medications can help, but they are only to get you over the hump and the consensus is in that if you take them without getting some conseling too it won't benefit in the long run. You need to purge this stuff out by talking to someone who can suggest different tools and avenues for you to take, so you can get on with the healing process. There's a whole interesting world out there--find it.

    A friend of mine (not a JW) would always say to me--when the going gets tough the tough get going--it was my little cheer that kept me going on at times...anyway, that may or may not help you, but I have found that self talk does work--sometimes I have to tell myself what to do to get over it...write me if you want...

    cybs

  • Xena
    Xena

    Hey Des,

    I'm glad to see you are planning to visit a Dr. for your depression, if nothing else they might be able to give you something to get you over the "hump" so to speak. Do you have any interests you weren't allowed to explore as a dub? When my ex and I left we both found things we had always wanted to do but weren't allowed to do as dubs...he played some football and I got into bellydancing...something to think about...or maybe taking some classes on things you are interested in...

    As for your wife....well that sucks...I'm sorry she is treating you like that, regardless of what she might or might not be going thru, it isn't nice. Do you have caller ID? Maybe you could try not talking to her for awhile....or when she starts talking about stuff like that just tell her that you would rather not know about it...

    I know what it's like to be lonely too so if you ever want to chat gimme a PM and maybe we can Yahoo or something....the chat room here is really nice too...lots of friendly people. If there isn't anyone in there just go in, usually someone shows up

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