Adultery a crime under US Military Justice ?!?

by Simon 52 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Heathen, Git, & Xena

  I really don't think that you are qualified to comment unless you have served in the military with extended absences from home. Adultery is extremely harmful to operational efficiency. It can get people killed. It distracts them from the job at hand. The charges are seldom levied unless it creates a problem with operational matters. Having served most of my career in Tactical Airlift, where we were gone more than we were home, I've seen the terrible damage that can occur in a unit were adultery was going on. It can destroy the working relationships so necessary in a close knit military unit. I had just returned from a four month separation from my own family and had only been home a few days when I was forced to go on another two month rotation to Germany because another officer got caught in an adulterous relationship and had to be "pulled off" the rotation to deal with the personal problems that resulted. Was I pissed? You bet! If our commander hadn't filed charges, I probably would have.
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  Xena

  My father was career air force....he retired an officer after a 20 year stint in the military. I have seen adultery in the military first hand.
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  FirstInLine

  I favor adultery being a crime in the Armed Services short the penalty of dishonorable discharge. So many things warrant an article 15 that are much more egregious even in the private sector that its somewhat irrational. For instance harrassing someone based on race or using a racial slur in the military warrants an article 15 whereas in the private sector you would be terminated and subject to civil litigation.

  Fighting with a co-worker or fellow service member in general warrants an article 15 whereas in the private sector you would be subject to termination without question and perhaps again civil and even criminal litigation.

  Why adultery in the military warrants the equivalent of a felony on your record post military service I think is subject at least to review.

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  If for no other reason than the potential to use the charges for political assassination ie. the Sergeant Major of the Army, a black guy, the female Air Force pilot. The lack of enforcement also creates a fairness issue when the penalties are so severe.
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  heathen

  That's fine if you don't think I'm qualified to comment but I will feel free to do so , because you are not the boss of me . I also agree with firstinline that it would be a good idea to make sure the parties involved are not in the same unit but a dishonorable discharge is a little excessive . I mean jeeze if the wife can't act like a wife when you're away then it's time to end the relationship and move on , be a friggen man already .
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  FirstInLine

  heathen,

  I also agree with firstinline that it would be a good idea to make sure the parties involved are not in the same unit

  I did not make any such assertion. If it seemed implied by my concerns for political assassination, that is not the case, sorry for the misunderstanding. I dont object to the application of the law to members of the same unit.
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  heathen

  I guess I was trying to read between the lines there as exactly what your point is firstinline. I know it costs the US tax payer a small fortune to train someone for military service and it all seems to be wasted if you get f!@#$ ed over a little piece of tail that should be shot for sneaking around on some poor slob .
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  FirstInLine

  Oh yeah, another nice little quirk in the uniform code is that you can threaten to kill your supervisor, even your CO, and be given a section 8 medical with honorable discharge.
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  little witch

  I recall awhile back a civilian woman sued her husband and his mistress in civil court for audultry.

  It is still on the books in many states, just often overlooked. This is why audultry is grounds for divorce.

  I don't presume to know what goes on at gitmo, with the other stuff. I presume that the military officials know more than I.

  Oh, and did you know it is also forbidden to get a tattoo in the military? (defacing federal property)
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  talesin

  if you get f!@#$ ed over a little piece of tail that should be shot for sneaking around on some poor slob .

  So, she's a little piece of tail, and your 'brother-in-arms' with whom she betrayed you is just some poor man who couldn't resist her? Of course, why should the man hold any responsibility for f***ing his comrade's wife?

  This whole woman-as-sleazy-seductress image that you seem to have absolves the poor penis-driven males from any responsibility, doesn't it?

  You do realize that is a subtle put-down of your own gender, do you not? No woman is a 'piece of tail' any more than a man is simply a 'dick on legs'. So let's not dismiss the man's culpability in this situation by reducing him to a penis and her to a sperm receptacle.

  talesin
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  little witch

  Imagine being a CO (company commander) and taking calls from spouses tangled in such webs. You are trying to do your job and concentrate on military actions.

  Some rules must be made to simplify this sort of thing, and the rules must be simple in order to be efficient.

  Our soldiers can't be called home to go to divorce court at every whim. They have a job to do.

  And if a soldiers spouse is getting his or her groove on and a divorce is decided on, then why should the soldier be further punished by losing his or her kids without a proper venue?

  The military also has rules that order paternity test post-haste, so as not to allow fathers or mothers to skip out on their responsibilities.

  I suppose should these "archaic" rules not exist, much would be made of corruption and protectionism by some...sigh...

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  I say this as a woman who would have never gotten a penny in child support if not for the US Navy. My ex tried to escape his duties and was forced to comply by court order and the military rules.