Is there such a thing as true religion?

by Half banana 32 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Half banana
    Half banana

    “It is the only religion which doesn’t go to war. We have friends in every country on Earth and we all think alike---We have the true understanding of the Bible. We are the true religion which God approves………..” Says the JW.

    To put JWs in the context of the question of true religion, we first have to get an insight into how a JW thinks and these points above are the selected criteria chosen by JWs to judge themselves. This very fact of cherry picking anything which puts JW belief into a good light is a characteristic of JW thinking i.e. the desire to highlight their separateness from others and to create an aura of being special. This is done to promote the ‘JW brand’.

    But how about the concept of a “true religion”? What would that mean?

    In common language, do most people think of religion in categories of true and false? Not really if ever—except by Jehovah’s Witnesses and perhaps a few other minor groups.

    So why do JWs want to use the expression “True religion”? Is it not because they want to attract new members with the lure that they are the exclusive holders of this title?

    So let’s look at the JW defence for their belief that they don’t take up arms for war. This of course is not exclusive to them. Many conscientious objectors have been executed during war time for their pacifism and around 4 million members of the Jain religion will not kill humans or animals for that matter. It might be said that a vast number of people today are no longer prepared to go to war to resolve problems.

    “JWs think alike”—yes this is quite true but wait a moment! It is a vital element of being a JW to have uniform belief and therefore like-minded thinking is actually enforced. Should any witness wish to contradict the governing body or deviate from orthodox teaching, they will feel constrained from doing so by being shamed, excluded and shunned. So this claim is true but only remains true by virtue of threats and punishment.

    “JWs have the true understanding of the Bible”. Ever since someone claimed something to be “God’s word” there has been disagreement as to what was meant. Since the Bible is the result of a deliberate fusion of religious belief drawn from Judaism, God-men savior cults and Mithraism amongst others, it is hardly surprising that it contains a myriad contradictions, false assumptions, scientific impossibilities and fake claims as to spiritual demands. It is categorically impossible to form a coherent narrative and account of the works and wishes of an invisible spirit being. The Bible is undeniably human in origin and focus. If religion or Christianity were true it could be expected that there would be an orthodoxy of teaching. But all the forty thousand sects of Christianity claiming that their way is the only true faith demonstrates the evolution of unprovable belief proliferating in the absence of concrete evidence and divine supervision. No-- the way it works is you pays your money and you takes your choice! There is no such animal as true religion. No one religion stands out, they are all institutions of hope, companionship and trust in the unknowable, they are a consolation for the anxious.

    “Jehovah’s Witnesses have the only true religion” Well if that was the case, then surely they would stand out head and shoulders above the others like a beacon of hope for mankind showing the world that their way has shown divine influence which has enabled them to surmount the trials of being human by their exemplary behavior. However the fact of the matter is that like other utopian dreamers, JWs imagine their behavior is outstanding but in reality the religion often attracts the desperate, sometimes the mentally challenged and those without hope for material comfort in life. They bring with them the trappings of the underprivileged namely the gullibility of the uneducated which includes a dependence on the irrational triumph of belief over evidence. The Governing body foster this ignorant culture which favours their leadership enabling them to keep their followers in lock-step and in strict adherence to their demands. For the time being, this is the source of their power to exist and continue.

    There cannot be such a thing as true religion anymore than there is an objective real life category called false religion --except in the minds of cult members. These are terms only used by cult leaders.

    “JWs were chosen by God!” There is not one singular piece of evidence to show that there is divine insight or approval exclusively on Jehovah’s Witnessess which cannot be addressed to other sects. If they were truly under divine influence and representatives of an almighty and therefore an inerrant God, then why in one hundred and forty years have JWs never got anything right?

    The concept of “True religion” is just the propaganda slogan of a mind-bending high-control religious cult which is living past its sell by date --which happens to have been “The Generation which saw the year 1914”.

  • redvip2000
    redvip2000
    “It is the only religion which doesn’t go to war. We have friends in every country on Earth and we all think alike---We have the true understanding of the Bible. We are the true religion which God approves………..”

    There is no evidence that the God of the Bible(assuming it existed), is against joining the army. Not only because of the numerous cases where god advocated for an army and conflict between nations. But also because everybody has a right to defend themselves, whether it's a person, a village or a country. If there was a city made up of only JWs, and a neighboring city came to kill them all, they wouldn't defend themselves in an organized matter?

  • jws
    jws

    I've come to think that religion is what you believe, not what an organization teaches. Each of us has their own "religion" and sometimes we agree on a lot. But even two different JWs will believe different things when we go across the spectrum of issues. Some disagreements may involve parts of JW teaching, others not. Like what do you believe is the best remedy for a cold?

    In that sense, religions are very personal and as unique to the individual as fingerprints or perhaps DNA. And in my definition, even atheists that don't believe gods to be part of reality have a religion in that they have their own beliefs on what the facts of the world are.

    Can their be a "true" religion? No. You could be right about several things. Like no supernatural things. But there are many things that are not binary, true or false. Thus it makes it hard for any belief to be categorized into a binary system such as "true".

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    Is there such a thing as true religion? - short answer, no there is not.

    People are allowed their beliefs. If they believe in some kind of sky-fairy, well, ok, fine - as long as their beliefs don't harm anyone else.

    But WT beliefs do harm innocent people. This is where the government and other authorities need to step in and slap the GB and WT defenders down.

    Kids who have JW parents MUST be given blood transfusions if they need it - I don't give a f**k what their parents believe.

    Also, any allegations of child sex abuse MUST be referred to the appropriate authorities straight away - again, I don't give a f**k what anyone else thinks.

  • Half banana
    Half banana

    @ Redvip, I guess they would but how far would they go?

    In the early annals of Christianity in the fourth century, it was seen as both a wonder and a madness that Christians appeared to harbour a death wish by happily allowing themselves to be killed by animals in the amphitheatres rather than compromise their beliefs. This would have included refusing the demand to take up arms. The commentators noting that they did such acts with pride and certainty of reward. This implacable belief in miraculous salvation was a very potent display which garnered admiration from the populace and helped establish Roman Christianity.

    However from reading the old prophets, especially at the end of the OT, you would think that the god of the Bible absolutely reveled in the mass murder of aliens and unbelievers.

    In both cases death is used a powerful motivator for action and conforming to rules. Wouldn't love for fellow man instead of love of God, be an enormous improvement?

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    i cant imagine any religion claiming to be a false religion.

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    There is no such thing as a true religion...but there is such a thing as an authentic Christian.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsxUZEqdKYw&t=1003s

  • Xanthippe
    Xanthippe

    Surely the true religion would have all the answers. How the universe began. Is there life on other planets. A cure for cancer. The chemical formula to correct the faulty neurotransmitters of people with depression or bipolar disorder.

    Instead they have endless convoluted reasons why God or gods can't provide anything useful at all. Jesus loves me doesn't cut it.

  • smashlee
    smashlee

    I really enjoyed reading your post, and especially got a kick out of the "you pays your money and you takes your choice" . Mostly, it made me think of the Karl Marx quote:

    Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    YES!

    Atheism -- "the un-religion!"

    Join us at your local Atheist Church! Services every Thursday from 2:16 to 2:18 PM!

    Bring your own manna, please.

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