Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

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  slimboyfat

  Marx's words are as true today as when he wrote: a frightful hobgoblin stalks throughout Europe! Even now, in the Derridean epoch, spectres of Marx, we retrurn to the idea, communism!

  When Marx said, "religion is the opium of the people", his emphasis was on "people" rather than "religion". He was not a rabid secularist who saw the elimination of religion as a worthy goal. Rather he was a humanitarian who viewed the alleviation of human oppression as the goal, and the diminution of religion as a mere byproduct. By contrast, for many secularists, the elimination of religion is the goal. The consequences for human wellbeing are not their focus.
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  Phizzy

  "Marxism" is bandied around as though it is a terrible thing, and people equate it to Communism, then they look at regimes that claimed to be Communist, see their failings and condemn Marx and his ideas, without ever reading Marx.

  His basic premise that the Workers never being paid the full amount that they earn as being unjust is correct.

  I would like to see some quotes from his actual writings that people disagree with,( and there are some of his ideas that I disagree with), rather than simply condemning his thoughts on what you think he said and stood for.
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  cofty

  Supporting Marxism is the moral equivalent of promoting German National Socialism.

  It is a dehumanizing ideology that sacrifices the individual in order to further the collective. It has murdered tens of millions of its citizens and all its proponents can say in its defense is that we haven't seen "true" communism yet. Well thank God for that.
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  LoveUniHateExams

  It has murdered tens of millions of its citizens and all its proponents can say in its defense is that we haven't seen "true" communism yet - a 'No True Scotsman' fallacy of epic proportions!

  Well thank God for that - this would be a hilarious retort if the history of communism wasn't quite so blood-soaked. As it is, it still made me chuckle.
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  _Morpheus

  @phizzy-

  The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the roPe- marx

  great. Lazy ass commies cant make a rope so they steal one and use it to hang the maker.

  
  

  or how about:

  
  

  But modern bourgeois private property is the final and most complete expression of the system of producing and appropriating products, that is based on class antagonisms, on the exploitation of the many by the few- marx

  
  

  so owning private private property is explotation? And who should decide where i live... the politburro? The whole philosphophy is riddled with contradictions and grandiose ideas that amount to one thing: subornination of the individual to a select few in power, the very thing marx claimed to rail against.
  

  No thank you. Having cited his own words im quite content to say "hell no" to communism.
  
  
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  karter

  The problem with Socialism is they soon run out of other peoples money to spend.

  Karter.
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  JRK

  In High School my teacher asked the class which Marx brother was our favorite. I said Karl, and got a detention.

  JK
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  JRK

  Liberté, Équalité, Fraternité ou de la mort.
  
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  Bungi Bill

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  MeanMrMustard

  I recommend the lecture video below. Up front, it is an hour long. However, very informative. It is a lecture on Mises' 1920 paper on socialism. The standard response of the socialist/collectivist to the "incentive" problem was that under socialism there would be a new "socialist man". Mises showed the problems with socialism, even with new socialist men, are insurmountable: mainly the economy can't calculate.

  The more prices are interfered with, the more problems arise.

  https://youtu.be/alqUqdbfxhk
  

  MMM