The Preaching Work Is The Biggest Scam Happening On Jehovah's Witnesses!

by minimus 71 Replies latest jw friends

  • Flowerpetal
    Flowerpetal
    No question, this time, Scoob!.....Most JW's I know of are more concerned about getting their time in than they are "saving lives". Of course, what they're doing (or not doing) is not going to save anyone's life.

    I agree....and it's the society that makes them think that turning in time is the most important -- so of course that's what they are going to put as a priority.

  • Flowerpetal
    Flowerpetal
    I like to think, Scooby, that being a good witness means speaking about what we personally have seen or heard. I think of Jesus' conversation with the woman at the well, a friendly back-and-forth discussion, while going about their daily chores, had more meaning and impact. What affected the woman more was that Jesus understood her. This means a more intense involvement with ordinary people than a magazine sales pitch.

    I wholeheartedly agree!!!

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    How about this take:

    WHY would anyone go in service when PEDOPHILES are also allowed to go?? Any homeowner you call on who has done some reading knows that the man or woman at his door can be a confessed or accused pedophile and still be allowed to call on his home, even if the children answer the door.

    So why should anyone still go in service till they fix it? I mean, why go at all, it is stupid in this day and age, but especially in view of the dunderheaded policy of the gray boys in Brooklyn???

  • minimus
    minimus

    Statistically, it is IMPOSSIBLE for JW's to preach to BILLIONS of people. Whether a Witness goes out door knocking or not, it means zero. Who can save a life without at least being TAUGHT? Preaching is one thing but TEACHING is what it's all about. If you can't teach the "truth", how can this world of mankind truly be helped. Yet, the lowest statistic on the report to the Society is Bible Studies. Do you know why??? Because no one hardly conducts one to teach people out there. Those that do report one BS usually have a family study to count. No real BS's are out there being taught. You know what this means??? If you don't get taught, you can't get baptized. If you don't get baptized, you're as good as dead in God's eyes. Now for those that are observers on this board or posters, do YOU have a Bible Study with someone? If you don't you could very well be bloodguilty!.....So get off the screen and get to the doors, unless of course, you really know that whether YOU go out or not, it really makes no difference.

  • Panda
    Panda
    who knows how god works today

    I thought God stopped working on the 7th day. AND Jesus never knocked on anyones door.

    For me the door to door preaching was a duty to Jehovah. I didn't love it, although I liked the friendships of the other pioneers. I hated saturdays because I was always stuck with someone who wouldn't talk at the doors. Everyone thought that the pioneers had to do the talking. I always felt like, give me a break I've been doing this and working my 2 jobs all week.

    The WTS uses the preaching work as a guilt prod. You will never be able to do enough. And that's actually true in the sense that everyone in the world will never hear the WTS message. Although they'd like all of those developing nations with uneducated people to hear it.

    Counting time was (I confess) a priority. Dubs looked over each others shoulders to see how they counted their time. One sister used to say "you must stop your time now we're on a break..." there's always one. And if someone didn't like you clothing or hair they would say it wasn't what Jehovah would accept as spiritually encouraging. So much backbiting and favoritism. And gossip OMG car groups were arranged with gossip possibilities in mind. And always someone was in the back of the van and never got out, but they had a full day in service. Oh man Minimus, why did you bring this up?

  • acsot
    acsot

    Scoob, I pioneered, special pioneered, served where the need was great, learned two foreign languages to be more effective in the preaching work. No one was more sincere than I was at the time. (I'm just telling you this as background info, as in ?I know whereof I speak?)

    I told one of my relatives (through marriage) recently that JWs have to report the time they spend preaching. He just about fell off his chair. I made no "editorial" comments about the preaching work other than the above (his mother is also a JW, as is mine - and as I have been for all my life, 40+ years). His comment: "then there's an ulterior motive. It?s not a spontaneous work they do, it?s a control mechanism, to see that people are heeding the party line."

    It's obvious to people, Scoob, that the preaching work, though undertaken by many sincere people, of whom I was one, would grind to a halt if the requirement of reporting time on a slip of paper every month was eliminated. You know that it's true. Deep down, Scoob, you know it's true.

    A few people, like my mother before she had her stroke, and another JW friend, would preach anyhow, because they enjoy it. But it would probably be undertaken in a vastly different way, more like Jgnat?s example of Jesus preaching at the well. With no hourly requirements, the preaching would take on much deeper, and more personal, significance.

    But "needing" humans to preach is quite limiting for an omniscient, omnipotent, almighty God. It's kind of like requiring your kids to speak favourably about you to their friends for one hour a day, every day, or else you won't love them anymore. Pretty ridiculous. But that?s a whole other topic J .

    BTW, I?m glad you?re here Scoob, you keep us on our toes and make sure we stay balanced in our approach (or at least try to). And what you say is exactly the same thing I said at one point in time, when I wsa preaching and came across "opposers".

  • Blueblades
    Blueblades

    I agree.However,jw's are not the only ones being scammed.To illustrate this:When one is scammed by spam,what appears to be helpful is no help at all.You trust the message,do what it says,and end up being hurt by it.

    I believe that we can also be scammed spiritually.It happens when supposed teachers of the Bible ( including jw's in connection with the preaching scam )distort it and proclaim a false message which they claim to be the truth.And this can happen with any so-called holy book of all faiths based on a belief system.

    So, how can we avoid such a scam,watchtower included,in other words how can we avoid being scammed by spiritual spam.All of us want help at one time or another,we all want to be able to put our trust in someone or something.

    So yes,the preaching work is one of the biggest scams happening to jw's.Yet I can't help but include all of Christianity in the biggest scam/hoax ever perpetrated through force,torture,and murder in the name of God,Christ or whoever just as many of the other isms have done too.

    It is because each and everyone of these so-called holy books are rife with contradictions and inconsistencies in the evovling ever-changing word of God,that all of us are being scammed spiritually.

    Minimus,I know this is off the main topic invovling jw's and the preaching scam,which I agree with.But,I just had to add that scamming goes on all through-out all faith belief systems.

    Blueblades,who won't be scammed by any faith belief systems anymore.

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Field service as presently constituted is a pathetic charade, little more than a feel-good palliative for the guilt-ridden JWs, or an installment payment on their idyllic New World homestead. As one brutally frank ``sister" once admitted to me: ``of course I want everlasting life; why else would I go door to door?!"

    If the WT leaders really believed that they had the one message humanity must hear to escape certain destruction, why don't they broadacast it by the most modern means available?

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    In other words JWs Count Their Time --- they do NOT make Their Time Count

  • wannaexit
    wannaexit

    My hubby would work with an elder pioneer who always found something else to do once they got to the territory. Most of the time he would deliver mags or take the opport to do a little sheparding call on someone.

    When I was a kid I remember a circuit orverseer saying how much he disliked service but that he would literally force himself to do it.

    I truly believe 99% of jw don't enjoy ,the service and if their fearless leaders up at Brooklyn would give them the choice very few of them would be out banging on doors.

    wannaexit

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