Know it’s not true but stay anyway

by Elena 36 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • moomanchu
    moomanchu

    Ironically -

    The top 10 reasons people stay out of a cult.

    1.Succesful (financial, career ect.)

    2.Family/friends

    3.confident

    4.Industrious

    5.Selflessness

    6.Suspicious

    7.Informed

    8. Clever/intelligent

    9.Independent

    10.Unbreakable

  • Elena
    Elena
    The "agnostic" part of PIMA is doing some incredibly heavy lifting, and it's a smokescreen.

    What if you decide not to do any heavy lifting? JW light means only very light lifting. Go to meetings if you feel like it, very seldom in person just stay on zoom most of the time.

    go to ministry groups for the nice social aspect but don’t ever do door to door. This is what many are doing.

    we sometimes see faces we haven’t seen for a long time, but they come and talk as if they are still part of the congregation and they are. I love this it is encouraging for everyone who wants to be JW lite.

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    Elena: What if you decide not to do any heavy lifting?

    If you decide to stay in because you don't want to deal with the fallout from admitting that you do not believe, then do what you must. But don't call it agnostic. You're not staying in because you're not sure who has the truth. You're staying in because the organization has put you in a difficult spot, which is the way they operate. It isn't because you're not sure you believe. It's because you fear the consequences of leaving.

  • Biahi
    Biahi

    This JW lite sounds like a crock to me. Because you are basically living a lie. What if you wanted to put up a Christmas tree, have a birthday party for your kids, or live with someone you aren’t married to? They wouldn’t let you slide. Certain things you could do, like vote, I don’t think they would find out unless you told them, but who wants to live like that, always looking over your shoulder.

    i walked away 40 years ago, never disfellowshipped or disassociated, because I wanted to live on my terms, not theirs. They tried to come after me, but it didn’t work, because they couldn’t find me. I moved 30 miles away, and this was before cell phones.

    If this works for you, fine. I couldn’t do it. 🤷‍♀️

  • joe134cd
    joe134cd

    Well I can only speak for the country I live in. The census figure has always been twice that stated by watchtower. This is still the case at present. This figure is slowly starting to change, but not significantly. My argument, here in, is if the org is full of PIMOs they are certainly not choosing to identify as such when given the freedom to do so in the census.

  • Elena
    Elena
    If you decide to stay in because you don't want to deal with the fallout from admitting that you do not believe, then do what you must. But don't call it agnostic.

    No that is not right. I stay in because I’m agnostic. Maybe the Bibles promises will have some truth to them: I have hope that the Bibles promises will come true. But I’m agnostic

  • moomanchu
    moomanchu

    Elena

    What is the point of putting up a false pretense by staying in ? You're going to be dead (perish) anyway.

    Remember all the signs at football games.

    “For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only Son, that WHO EVER BELIEVES in Him should not perish but have eternal life.” -John 3:16

    Agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither belief nor disbelief in God.

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