Free Speech - Jordan Peterson Debate Live 9:30 EST Saturday

by cofty 85 Replies latest social current

  • scotsman
    scotsman

    As it appears no one on this thread has actually ever met someone who has asked to be addressed by another pronoun than he or she it seems the chances of criminalisation are zero.

    unless Mx Cofty is really hanging out with the "poseurs" but wants to keep it a secret....

  • Simon
    Simon
    Both are trying their hardest to sell moderates as their worst parody of the other side

    I disagree. The left isn't trying to sell moderates anything other than that they too are all part of the extreme right - simply (usually) by being a white male, they are supposedly racist, homophobic, oppressive, privileged, misogynistic rapists-to-be.

    The right sells them the message that the left are looney and you don't need to put up with being called names and labelled.

    Who are the poor white people to believe? Who do you think they believe? Throw in some rhetoric about Islam where one side seems to speak openly and honestly about a threat and the other refuses to even call the obvious what it is and you have the election that just happened.

    That is why the right wins and the left has just thrown 50 years of progress down the pan. But hey, maybe the "Xir" crowd will be happy as long as the internment camp guards call them the right name.

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  • bohm
    bohm

    scotsman: nope, never met one, and I have been in university environments for several years now which are supposedly shock full of them...

    I don't doubt they could be found, but quite frankly why not take the good old "don't feed the trolls" approach (if they appear to not be genuine) and get on with life?

    Universities, being full of young people who are seeking a single answer to anything, has always housed extreme opinions. I think this is a very, very minor issue to get upset compared to other events.

  • Simon
    Simon
    As it appears no one on this thread has actually ever met someone who has asked to be addressed by another pronoun than he or she it seems the chances of criminalisation are zero

    Ah, but as with so many things, there will always be someone willing to popup and make an issue out of things.

    Catlin Jenner might not even know someone called him / her a he or a she but you can bet some SJW will be only too willing to fight about it as though they were he or she.

  • scotsman
    scotsman

    Bohm

    It's bizarre fixation they have.

    The cure, like many things, will probably be hanging out with someone that they think is the monstrous threat to civilisation because of an alternative pronoun only to discover they are just as dull as them. But with a different pronoun.

  • bohm
    bohm
    I disagree. The left isn't trying to sell moderates anything other than that they too are all part of the extreme right - simply (usually) by being a white male, they are supposedly racist, homophobic, oppressive, privileged, misogynistic rapists-to-be.

    I think it is possible to find many on the left who does not condone that behaviour at all. Here is what I mean:

    • Crazy left: We live in a patriarchal rape culture permeated by white privilege, capitalistic exploitation, and destruction of foreign cultures which are believed to be "less worthy" than our own (that is, if we admit we have a culture, and not simply an oppressive system). The election was lost because white racist men voted for their own interest in accordance with the privilege and against women. America is currently undergoing a new holocaust where blacks can be killed and women raped without anyone batting an eye. If you can't see this, you are part of the oppressive system and need to understand your views a shaped by your deeply-held racism.
    • Crazy right: The democratic party and the left, in particular HRC, have been infiltrated by (all of the above) ideas and are today at best a mess unfit for government and, more fairly, trying to impose a Marxist ideology and tyranny on anyone in which we must accept all statements about belief, sexuality, identity, etc. (no matter how stupid) as being equal. The US is currently under assault by radical Islam (Europe is already lost) and the left will do nothing to stop wahabism from becoming a dominant form of belief in the USA. Mexicans are streaming over our borders and we must make a national database of muslims to starve of this existential threat. Those who do not agree with this analysis are regressive leftists who fail to understand the true nature of what the left have become, just see all these examples of what someone has said.
  • bohm
    bohm
    Simon: Catlin Jenner might not even know someone called him / her a he or a she but you can bet some SJW will be only too willing to fight about it as though they were he or she.

    But so what? insofar as my experience tells me, these SJWs are mostly found in videos about crazy SJWs, often in a setting where some form of monetary benefit is involved for the person who made the video..

    That does not make their opinions less fringe or crazy, but I think it is a problem that is being blown out of context.

  • scotsman
    scotsman

    I'm also intrigued by Cofty's refusal to use Ms: are there others that find this unacceptable?

  • cofty
    cofty
    I'm also intrigued by Cofty's refusal to use Ms: are there others that find this unacceptable? - Scotsman

    I did not say that I refuse to use Ms. I said - "I have never referred to anybody as Ms in my life, I have also never referred to a man as Mx and never will."

    I have never been asked to refer to somebody as Ms. I'm amused that you would presume to declare my opinions on anything "unacceptable".

  • never a jw
    never a jw

    After watching the video, I had to reconsider my position. These guys (LGBT/SJW) are not helping their cause. They are asking for more Donald Trumps to be raised.

    Please stop it. You are painful to watch. Enjoy the gains and know when to stop.

    Same sex marriage: YES. Laws against unjust discrimination: YES. But this. You are not endearing yourself to the very people you need to support your cause.

    Please don't set us all back one generation or two.

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