Do you think the big A will come after Russia invades Ukraine?

by Iamallcool 54 Replies latest jw friends

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  TD

  Perfect example:

  Revelation 17 describes a thoroughly despicable woman via a series of cryptic allusions that don't make a lot of sense on the surface.

  These allusions, however come together on the obverse side of the Vespasian coin, where we see a female figure seated on the seven hills of Rome just as she's described.

  
  

  This was Dea Roma, (The personification of Rome as a goddess) which the Jews absolutely despised. They saw Rome as a greater Babylon and Dea Roma as the symbol of their servitude. The called her the "mother of whores" and scrawled obscene graffiti about her in public places when they could get away with it.

  Everyone at the time would have been familiar with this symbology. And that's why Revelation was copied and circulated because it made sense to the people at the time
  
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  mickbobcat

  Just like it did after WW1 and WW2 and Vietnam, the cold war, bla bla bla bla.
  
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  Fisherman

  because it made sense to the people at the time

  But the Bible writers did not write their thoughts according to the premise that the Bible is inspired so they didn’t have to understand what they wrote or could have been mistaken about what they intended to mean. So, in-spite of their beliefs at the time as to the identity of Babylon the Great juxtaposition the mistaken beliefs about the significance of the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” which Jesus clarified later on, the prophetic identity of Babylon the Great may not be Rome. And of course, there is an argument explaining that.
  
  
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  Fisherman

  So does Star Trek. It's still not actually a prophecy about the future.

  The subject does not argue the inspired validity of Rev but only that the related verses are fulfilled in the future.
  
  
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  TD

  Fisherman,

  The idea that the 1600 stadia is the distance from Scranton PA to Brooklyn NY provided you take the Hoboken Ferry (The Finished Mystery 1917) or that the breaking of one of the seven seals was the installation of new printing presses in Brooklyn (Then is Finished the Mystery of God 1969) are two examples of where an egocentric approach to interpretation leads.

  There are many more.
  
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  Ding

  Now, don't run ahead of Jehovah's chariot with private interpretations and speculation.

  We all have to wait for the GB to tell us.

  The light just keeps on getting brighter and brighter.
  
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  Fisherman

  egocentric approach to interpretation leads.

  TD,

  How does that establish that Rome is the Rev HOB or debunk WT interpretation that it is WEFR?
  
  
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  Vanderhoven7

  The great tribulation and Armageddon are history. Don't worry about what doomsday cults predict.
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  Fisherman

  TD,

  Interestingly, the insight book does not identify BTG the as World Empire of False Religion, it only suggests that it may be a religious entity. But the point here is that the destruction of BTG remains to be seen in the future. It didn’t happen already. Also, wt incorrect interpretations of prophecy doesn’t disprove prophecy.
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  Vanderhoven7

  Look on the positive side

  *** w05 12/1 p. 6 Armageddon -- A Happy Beginning ***

  "Many wonder, however, why a God who is the very embodiment of love would inflict death and destruction on much of humankind. The situation might be compared to that of a pest-infested house. Would you not agree that a conscientious homeowner should safeguard the health and well-being of his family by exterminating the pests? ... The battle of Armageddon is actually one of the best things that could happen to us!