# I predicted a lottery number from a pattern, is the lottery NOT random or is random held to a universal force?

by EndofMysteries 25 Replies latest social current

• ##### EndofMysteries

I've studied and observed several lottery patterns. This one is now gone so nothing lost by revealing it. I had a certain history search and noticed that almost each week the past few months a list of numbers not used recently were being used 1 per week. The last 2 numbers were 34 and 1. I KNEW tonight either 34 or 1 would be used. (1 may be used next but since only 1 left that pattern may expire).

Are the lottery winning numbers truly random? Flipping a coin in the long run you'll have 50/50 heads and tails.

Did 34 get pulled because it was selected to make the numbers equalize and appear random or did a cosmic force make it because random must eventually have all numbers equal out?

• ##### smiddy

E.O.M.

When you work out the winning lottery numbers think of your friends on here . but do it via PM , I`d hate to think a G.B.member lurking here got wind of it

smiddy

• ##### smiddy

JeffT

That guy had his priorities wrong , he should have said Cocaine , and then a bunch of Hooker`s .

no I`m Just kidding , LOL

smiddy

• ##### Saintbertholdt
Are the lottery winning numbers truly random?

If the lottery is not crooked, yes.

There are two types of random numbers: TRN's and PRN's. True Random Numbers and Pseudo Random Numbers.

Pseudo Random Numbers are generated by computer and when the same seed value is used the algorithm will generate the same sequence of numbers which will at some point repeat. The repetition can be short or very long depending on the algorithm used. Most PRN's use derivatives of an algorithm called LFSRs (Linear Feedback Shift Registers). The most well known/widely used algorithm today is called the Mercene Twister. Some early online casino's were compromised because a sequence could be predicted if one knew the algorithm used and had a short sequence of the numbers that were sequentially generated. So today online casino's make a lot more effort to generate unduplicatable PRN combinations.

Lottery numbers are True Random Numbers. This means to predict the numbers one would have to either simulate the universe up to the point where the next lottery numbers are drawn, or one would have to know the EXACT initial conditions just before the numbers are drawn and the exact mechanical mechanism used so that the process can be simulated using cellular automata or a pure physics simulation.

Examples of TRNs are lottery numbers, radio static and cosmic radiation values.

Flipping a coin in the long run you'll have 50/50 heads and tails.

What does long run mean? 10 times? 100? 1000? 1000 000 000 000?

This is referred to as the gamblers fallacy.

The inverse of this is called the hot hand or inverse gamblers fallacy.

See the paper available online: Predicting Lotto Numbers by Claus Bjørn Jørgensen, Sigrid Suetens, and Jean-Robert Tyran

From the paper: "Mounting evidence from the experimental laboratory and the field suggests that truly random processes are difficult to grasp for most people, and that many people tend to see patterns in data when in fact there are none. According to the “law of small numbers” (Tversky and Kahneman, 1971), people tend to mispredict random sequences because they expect small samples to “look like” large samples. For example, if asked to generate a random sequence as in a coin toss, many people predict too many switches between head and tails because they falsely believe that head and tails should appear in equal proportion even in a small sample (see, e.g., Bar-Hillel and Wagenaar, 1991; Rapoport and Budescu, 1997). Or when playing the roulette, people tend to expect that a black number is “due” after observing a sequence of red numbers (e.g. Croson and Sundali, 2005). The belief in frequent reversals in random sequences has been dubbed the “gambler’s fallacy” (Tversky and Kahneman, 1971)."

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• ##### The Searcher
Exactly what I was thinking SaintBertholdt! :)
• ##### Anders Andersen
many people tend to see patterns in data when in fact there are none.

We are wired that way.

Leaves rustle, so it must be a predator! Run (and survive and pass your pattern seeking genes to next generation).

We exist, so the must be a creator! Pray (and stop thinking and pass your idiot ideas to next generation as truth).

People not understanding true randomness, and wanting to see patterns everywhere is the one reason prayer 'works'.

Also, loteries are for evil greedy people. I know coz the FDS told me so!

• ##### slimboyfat
I predicted the lottery numbers too, the first draw in 1994, but I was only 12 and didn't ask to put them on. The numbers were my birthday, my dad's birthday, the number of tribal divisions in the Sioux or something, the dog soldiers, three symbolising I forget what, and my best friend's birthday: 3, 5, 14, 22, 30, 44. True story.