Nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 or 568 BC?

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  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    scholar:

    Furuli notes that he had assisted the brother in the Writing Department who wrote the two articles on Chronology with ongoing discussions and the exchanging of drafts for two years prior to the publishing of the two articles. During that period Furuli asked him to find two Witnesses with astronomical knowledge who could test his astro calculations.

    Haha... so, based on the information purportedly from Furuli, I was basically right on both counts when I said:

    The 'researchers' could be Furuli (who may have had an assistant) or could just be some lads at 'Bethel' who were tasked with fudging some results to fit the Watch Tower Society's narrative.

    (Furuli allegedly says it was he who 'assisted', but in the capacity as the primary 'researcher' for his fudged 'observations'.)

    But as has already been pointed out, it is quite obvious why Watch Tower (and Furuli) need to discount the observations of the planets.

  • Rocketman123
    Rocketman123

    One thing to note about JWS and 607 BCE is that if you are going to be an accepted member and identified in good standing you have to agree and support 607 BCE., which includes agreeing with 1914.

    Isn't that right Scholar ?

    Lets see his reply.

    So if people are wondering why this guy isn't being intellectually honest in light of all the pertaining available information, there's your answer.

  • scholar
    scholar

    joey jojo

    Here are 2 lines of VAT4956:

    Line 2: Saturn was in front of the Swallow.

    Line 9: Saturn was in front of the Swallow.

    If I am reading the tablet right, the time between the observance of Saturn in the first line and the second is about 28 days. So , for weeks, Saturn was roughly in front, or to the east, of the Swallow constellation

    This is all the information that anyone that knows anything about astronomy needs. A difference in half a degree here or there is totally inconsequential. In fact, any one of these 2 observations are enough to pinpoint the year.

    Saturn takes 29 years to complete its orbit around the Sun and reappear in the same place. The difference between 568 and 588, as argued is only 20 years.

    If the location of Saturn in regard to the Swallow matches for 567/8,then it will not match for 588- it won't even be close. 588 is incorrect, everyone, except the WT knows it.

    Actually, I'm pretty sure they know it too.

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    A little dose of plain common sense that the lunar observations would be more use than that of planetary observations for the fact of its proximity to the Earth and ease of observations over the centuries.

    The simple fact is that the planetary observations are open to interpretation and as the WT article notes that in the case of VAT 4956 which contained 15 planetary observations and 13 sets of lunar observations. The latter are are observations considered superior to the former and show a precise match for 588 BCE. Other celestial bodies relating to the moon can also be identified and their positions can be dated with a good measure of certainty.

    Thus as the planetary observations are open to some interpretation and although not considered in the WT article were certainly examined by Furuli who found that these are only approximately correct and may have been retro calculations based on the historical assumption that Neb's 37 th year was 568 BCE

    scholar JW

  • scholar
    scholar

    Jeffro

    Haha... so, based on the information purportedly from Furuli, I was basically right on both counts when I said:

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    Aren't you a smart little boy.

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    (Furuli allegedly says it was he who 'assisted', but in the capacity as the primary 'researcher' for his fudged 'observations'.)

    -- Furuli was consulted and played a major part in the research for the WT article using others to corroborate his research but his research could well be the basis for the article.

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    But as has already been pointed out, it is quite obvious why Watch Tower (and Furuli) need to discount the observations of the planets

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    The WT article did not discuss the planetary data for the reasons given in the article but Furuli most certainly does in his research proving that these were simply retro calculations therefore not reliable.

    scholar JW



  • scholar
    scholar

    Jeffro

    See https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/216056/vat-4956-comparison-lunar-three-time-intervals-years-568-7-bce-588-7-bce for AnnOMaly's excellent thread analysing the astronomical observations in VAT 4956 against the claims made in the November 2011 issue of The Watchtower.

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    Now debunked by Furuli using the best or the more professional astro-program available SkyX

    scholar JW

  • scholar
    scholar

    Rocketman123

    One thing to note about JWS and 607 BCE is that if you are going to be an accepted member and identified in good standing you have to agree and support 607 BCE., which includes agreeing with 1914.

    Isn't that right Scholar ?

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    Absolutely!!!!

    scholar JW

  • Rocketman123
    Rocketman123

    Absolutely!!!!

    Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    Isn't that right Scholar ?

    Then your a corrupt intellectually dishonest bible scholar, just like the so called WTS/JWS bible scholars.

    Jesus will one day acknowledge the company you keep

  • Rocketman123
    Rocketman123

    The question remains will Jesus forgive the WTS men and their corrupt dishonest bible teachings or not ?

    Will he accpet their actions as being sins to be forgiven ?

    I think probably not .

    They made themselves through proclamation as being "Thee" chosen spokesmen for all mankind by God, yet they were self avowed false prophet/teachers.

    People who god said to not listen to through his spoken word and being avowed to be " True Christians " through baptism to Jesus Christ and his word.

  • scholar
    scholar

    Rocketman123

    hen your a corrupt intellectually dishonest bible scholar, just like the so called WTS/JWS bible scholars

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    Thank you for the compliment.

    scholar JW

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    The fact is that if the Watch Tower Society announced tomorrow that Jerusalem was destroyed in a different year (like when they previously insisted it was in 606), ‘scholar’ would jump right on board. He doesn’t care about the facts, just his religious dogma.

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