the Watchtower guide to sex.

by stan livedeath 32 Replies latest social humour

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  sparky1

  "NEVER get a sex manual. NO ORAL" - iwantoutnow

  

  If you study this manual hard enough, perhaps you can become a cunning linguist.
  
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  iwantoutnow

  Sparky1 - thanks - I also forgot NO Analligus :(
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  tiki

  You guys.....Andre sets such a fine example.....

  ........sigh........crazy people. No wonder so many are neurotic.
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  road to nowhere

  You can do that other stuff but then have to give a detailed confession to 3 voyeurs
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  JimmyYoung

  All joking aside, I remember there being an article on no unnatural sex. But it left a lot to interpretation. I have been out for a long time now and don't follow the cult. I had asked an elder what that meant unnatural and was told oral sex, anal sex, masturbation unless it was to get things going for natural sexual intercourse. Can someone post the actual articles on sex over the years? I had several elders who were a bit chatty when we were working tell me the experimenting with different positions was half the fun. I would like to know the official position on sex from the cult. I know that there are elders who think if you are not trying to have a child than you should not be having sex and others who think its a great way to kill half an hour. Thanks for any clarification. BTW my mother had a bible study that was coming along and then dropped out when she was told no oral sex. She said it was a big part of their sex life her and her husband and would not give it up.
  
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  iwantoutnow

  LETS GET IT STRAIGHT. No matter how they couch their printed words - in JW world Perverted sex is always ORAL and ANAL sex. That what you hear in talks, local needs, and assemblies.

  
  Found this article

  Married Christians

  How about sexual activity between married couples within the marriage bond? It is not for the elders to pry into the intimate lives of married Christians. However, the Bible certainly enters into their lives. Those who would “keep walking by spirit” should not ignore the Scriptural indications of God’s thinking. And they will do well to cultivate a hatred for everything that is unclean before Jehovah, including what are clearly perverted sexual practices. Married couples should act in a way that will leave them with a clean conscience, as they give unimpeded attention to developing “the fruitage of the spirit.”​—Galatians 5:16, 22, 23; Ephesians 5:3-5.

  What, though, if one mate wants or even demands to share with his or her partner in what is clearly a perverted sex practice? The above-presented facts show that porneia involves unlawful sexual conduct outside the marital arrangement. Thus, a mate’s enforcing perverted acts, such as oral or anal sex, within the marriage would not constitute a Scriptural basis for a divorce that would free either for remarriage.* Even though a believing mate is distressed by the situation, yet that one’s endeavor to hold to Scriptural principles will result in a blessing from Jehovah. In such cases it may be helpful for the couple to discuss the problem frankly, bearing in mind especially that sexual relations should be honorable, wholesome, an expression of tender love. This certainly should exclude anything that might distress or harm one’s mate.​—Ephesians 5:28-30; 1 Peter 3:1, 7.

  As already stated, it is not for elders to “police” the private marital matters of couples in the congregation. However, if it becomes known that a member of the congregation is practicing or openly advocating perverted sex relations within the marriage bond, that one certainly would not be irreprehensible, and so would not be acceptable for special privileges, such as serving as an elder, a ministerial servant or a pioneer. Such practice and advocacy could even lead to expulsion from the congregation. Why?

  
  
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  LoveUniHateExams

  Sorry to go off on one, but ...
  

  Watchtower: "Thus, a mate’s enforcing perverted acts, such as oral or anal sex, within the marriage … "

  ^^^ Would be rape (enforcing).

  WTF is wrong with the WTS? Jeez!

  Any sexual act that is forced or enforced is rape/abuse/coercion.

  Adult couples (married or not) can decide for themselves what they want to do in private.

  They don't need advice from a group of elderly men who probably aren't getting any, lol.
  
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  Vidiot

  stan livedeath - "...the GB probably don't have much experience when it comes to marital sex guidance..."

  Let's be realistic.

  The GB probably don't have much experience when it comes to any kind of sex, guided or otherwise.

  
  
  
  
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  Vidiot

  Watchtower - "Thus, a mate’s enforcing perverted acts, such as oral or anal sex, within the marriage…"

  This always made me laugh, even back when I was still in (and kinda cinched the opinion I expressed above).

  It was as if they couldn't conceive that maybe both partners might actually like giving and getting (or butt stuff).

  
  
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  Vidiot

  All joking aside though, the Org's Victorian prudishness really stems from its inherent ultraconservative nature...

  ...historically, authoritarian regimes have never particularly wanted a sexually satisfied populace. They would rather their subjects redirect their energies toward advancing the regime's agenda (whatever it may happen to be).