Could/should JW Lawyer be punished for deceiving the Judge?

by The Fall Guy 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • The Fall Guy
    The Fall Guy

    In an attempt to disparage a faded JW and to obtain their personal details, he deceptively partially quoted a statement from the JW.BORG web site to the New York judge when he wrote,

    "Disfellowshipping does not cause family relationships to be permanently lost: "The religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain. The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue." Paul D. Polidoro - Associate General Counsel (JW lawyer)

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1krDT1sprXO1f2pdIcQUdLfgB-Dz0_CKz/view

    He deliberately omitted the opening sentence - "What of a man who is disfellowshipped but whose wife and children are still Jehovah’s Witnesses?

    This patently demonstrates that the ensuing information is only applicable to a JW parent. This is nothing short of blatant deception, because the JW lawyer knows that his statement does not apply to the individual being targetted.

  • sir82
    sir82

    He should be "punished" by having the opposing attorney expose his deceit, and hopefully losing his case.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange
    "Disfellowshipping does not cause family relationships to be permanently lost: "The religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain. The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue." Paul D. Polidoro - Associate General Counsel (JW lawyer)

    A JW with whom I continue to be in touch was shown this video by his DF son whom he had been shunning. It pissed him off so bad that WTS was "talking out of both sides of their mouth" that he concluded THIS was the view he would now take toward his DF son. "It must be New Light". It was testimony in Court by WTS spokesman so it must be true.

    It seems to me there are many experiences like this where we see WT shooting themselves in the foot. KEEP IT UP!

  • john.prestor
    john.prestor

    Yes, if the man knows he's lying and lies anyway about something like that he should be punished. And if this man is a Jehovah's Witness, particularly an older, senior member (I'm sure they don't let Joe Publisher represent them in court), he knows he's lying.

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    Don`t hold your breath !

    Did Geoffrey Jackson get punished for misleading the Australian royal commission ? When he said " it would be presumptuous on my part to say that " when asked if JW`s were the only religion that God was dealing with( or some such question .)

    Did Vincent O`Toole (lawyer) get punished when he misled the ARC when asked about "theocratic warfare" and stated he had heard about the phrase but never knew what it meant .Again( words to that effect.)

  • zeb
    zeb

    Is it true that 9/10 lawyers give the others a bad name.?

  • The Fall Guy
    The Fall Guy

    Zeb - I think lawyers do a good enough job of giving themselves a bad name! :)

  • eyeuse2badub
    eyeuse2badub

    Half truths and lying are called "theocratic warfare". Only jw attorneys are allowed to use "theocratic warfare" in court! Being in "the truth" also means being in the "half truth/lying" when needed!

    just saying!

  • StephaneLaliberte
    StephaneLaliberte

    It is not easy to prove that someone deliberately lied in court. Sometimes, we hear one thing, but another thing was said. For instance, Geoffrey Jackson said that "it would SEEM presumptuous ...", not that it would BE presumptuous. That wiesel word makes the difference between a skilful evasion and a deliberate lie. Same goes with half truths: if they are exposed, they can play the word game.

    Even if they were to outright lie: "Did you see miss - x - at the kingdom hall?" - "NO". When later, it is proven that he did in fact see her, he can blame his failing memory.

    It is very difficult to bring someone to court for perjury.

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow

    "Normal family relations continue"

    This is the argument presented to the courts even though we know it doesn't work that way in practice.

    Here is David Guam (JW lawyer and active JW himself) saying the same thing to the Canadian Supreme Court:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DiFM845NtE

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