Could/should JW Lawyer be punished for deceiving the Judge?

by The Fall Guy 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • StephaneLaliberte
    "Normal family relations continue"

    Word games, word games, word games! By family, he meant, those living under the same roof...

    Here is another @0:56:

    They are able to tend in the local Kingdom hall of Jehovah's Witnesses. They are able to sit where ever they like.

    What he meant is: If they ever want to be re-instated, they will need to sit where ever they like within the last two back rows.

  • OrphanCrow
    Stephane: Word games, word games, word games! By family, he meant, those living under the same roof...

    Yes, word games indeed. And he forgot to mention all those young people who have been kicked out of their "same roof" once they were df. So many don't get the privledge of living at home once they "stumble".

    And, he failed to bring up that if a JW is found to be talking to, eating with, or generally "associating with" a df one, that they too will be disfellowshipped.


    In his opening statement, David Gnam, Watchtower’s lawyer, tries to educate the court about the (religious) practice of “disfellowshipping”.

    Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t use the word “shun” or “shunning”. They refer to it as “disfellowship”, “disfellowshipping”, “disfellowshipped” because that really gives the sense of what’s taking place within this particular religious community. “Disfellowship” literally means “no further spiritual fellowship” with the individual. […] The nature of the relationship, then, of a disfellowshipped person is not completely shunned. The disfellowshipped person is able to come into the congregation meetings, they’re able to attend in the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses, they’re able to sit wherever they like, they can sing the spiritual songs with the congregation. As far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue with the exception of spiritual fellowship… and, the door is not closed to Mr. Wall either. The person who is disfellowshipped can, after a period of time, ask to be reinstated in the congregation, because that is the purpose of the discipline.

    Half truths and lies by Mr. David Gnam. What else would you expect from a lawyer hired by the WTBTS? Here is the real truth about ''disfellowshipping.''

    • Watchtower Study October 2017
    The Truth Brings, “Not Peace, But a Sword”

    19 Respect the discipline of Jehovah. God knows that his discipline will benefit everyone involved, including the one who is disfellowshipped. Even though it is very painful when someone we love is disciplined, it can help him or her to return to Jehovah in the future. (Read Hebrews 12:11.) Until then, we must respect Jehovah’s direction to “stop keeping company” with those who are disfellowshipped. (1 Corinthians 5:11-13) This is not easy. But we must avoid contact with them by telephone, text messages, letters, e-mails, or social media.

  • smiddy3

    It doesn`t appear like a JW Lawyer could be punished for deceiving or misleading a Judge .

    But they sure as hell should be prosecuted for deceiving or misleading a Judge or magistrate in a court of law.

    No wonder the law is often referred to as an ass when lawyers can get away with manipulating the system and getting off scot free for doing so.

    Word games ,word games true it makes a mockery of the judicial system when they can get away with it.

    And get away with it they do .

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